Has my Puma got a DPF or not.

Back closer to topic...

Euro 4 spec was set intending DPFs to be fitted. Most manufacturers managed to meet Euro 4 with tuning and an oxy-cat - so no DPF.
So most Euro 4 spec vehicles do not have a DPF - just an oxy-cat.

Euro 5/6 Introduced a particle number concentration limit, to force all manufacturers to fit a DPF.

The Australian automotive industry has said that Euro 5/6 is too hard to meet at present, and negotiated a gradual phase-in of 5/6 until 2018 (passenger vehicles), with the particle number concentration limit the last
item to be introduced.

Imported vehicles may or may not have the DPF removed for the Australian market. Most Australian made diesels will not yet have a DPF.


As for spinifex and DPFs... On tracks like the CSR, most of the burnt out vehicles littered along the tracks are petrols. Some of these presumably due to spinifex fires. Modern diesels without DPFs could also have spinifex collect around the turbo or oxy-cat. If you are driving in tall grass or spinifex in any (modern) vehicle you would need to stop and clean the vehicle regularly.

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Originally Posted by Dougal

I am chilled. Just challenging completely ridiculous blanket comments so the bs doesn't spread.

It's very clear you've never owned or worked on a DPF diesel. Sure they fail sometimes, usually when used in completely the wrong way. Just like everything else.

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Wrong-, I have worked on them (I was a patrol with the second largest breakdown service in the UK and they had the contract with VAG)

Right-, I haven't owned one and wouldn't because of the above.

I apologise if it seems like a blanket statement, I'll be more specific - any diesel produced by VAG with a DPF and 4 wheels is ****e. :D

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Originally Posted by nedflanders

Wrong-, I have worked on them (I was a patrol with the second largest breakdown service in the UK and they had the contract with VAG)

Right-, I haven't owned one and wouldn't because of the above.

I apologise if it seems like a blanket statement, I'll be more specific - any diesel produced by VAG with a DPF and 4 wheels is ****e. :D

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I travel to Germany once or twice a year, and almost everyone I know and work with there has a VW or Audi diesel. None have ever reported DPF problems.

There were a lot of initial problems with backyard mechanics or tightarse owners using the wrong oil.

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Wrong-, I have worked on them (I was a patrol with the second largest breakdown service in the UK and they had the contract with VAG)

Right-, I haven't owned one and wouldn't because of the above.

I apologise if it seems like a blanket statement, I'll be more specific - any diesel produced by VAG with a DPF and 4 wheels is ****e. :D

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Breakdown patrol counts as working on vehicles?

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Breakdown patrol counts as working on vehicles?

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Slightly different in the UK, the incentive is to FIX rather than flatbed, as soon as it goes on a truck you loose your bonus. As a patrol you were penalized heavily and lead patrol would have words if to many went on the truck as every tow the company lost money. ;)

So again yes I have worked on VAG ****boxes, although VW did produce Hitlers favorite car the Beetle, so not all bad then!!;)

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

I travel to Germany once or twice a year, and almost everyone I know and work with there has a VW or Audi diesel. None have ever reported DPF problems.

There were a lot of initial problems with backyard mechanics or tightarse owners using the wrong oil.

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Really, and there was me thinking most of the ones I saw were Dealer serviced and within the first 24monthsof ownership :)

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Originally Posted by nedflanders

.......I apologise if it seems like a blanket statement, I'll be more specific - any diesel produced by VAG with a DPF and 4 wheels is ****e. :D

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Ok, oh learned one, explain that sentence for me. I own a 2011 Golf, with a 1.6 TD engine, manual gearbox, DPF, four wheels. I jump in it every day, every day it starts first time, it gets me to and from work (80km round trip) and uses less than 4l/100km in the process. It has seen the inside of a workshop twice, for routine servicing. It has no rattles or squeaks, nothing has broken, nothing failed.

How is that ****e?

There certainly are some things that spell for trouble sometimes.
A friend works in a garage on VW and Audi.

When they had a works meeting some trainers asked what they thought which engine was the most troublesome.
All of the mechanics named the same (a "basic", common engine, don´t know which exactly). But it only had a failure rate of less than 1%. There was another engine (a more sophisticated engine, only present in the "buyer spends more $$ on it" line) which has 5-10% failures. But the mechanics never see it in the workshop because it is so scarce.
It like with the HIV Test. It´s result is 99,99% true. But still this means that one test out of 10,000 is wrong. So even a very small failure will be seen pretty often if the test group is large.

Same may be true to the DPFs.

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Ok, oh learned one, explain that sentence for me. I own a 2011 Golf, with a 1.6 TD engine, manual gearbox, DPF, four wheels. I jump in it every day, every day it starts first time, it gets me to and from work (80km round trip) and uses less than 4l/100km in the process. It has seen the inside of a workshop twice, for routine servicing. It has no rattles or squeaks, nothing has broken, nothing failed.

How is that ****e?

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Lucky ;)

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Lucky ;)

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Oh good, another generalisation. You should buy a Toyota. ;)