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    130 suspension

    Hi guys this has most likely been discussed before however I am going to ask again

    I just got my new 130 and after having 3 110 wagons a ute is a whole new thing to me.
    I notice 2 main things between the 130 and the wagons the 130 steers a bit different when cornering at higher speeds and also the ride is a tad more harsh than the wagon not by much but it is.
    This car is mainly going to be used for long trips out west covering a mix of dirt roads at high speed,asphalt at high speed and numerous crop paddocks at a reasonable speed.
    What I do not like is the use of the words "heavy duty" in regards to suspension as that is all I find suspension places telling me to buy and I do not warrant the use of HD suspension as the ride comfort is not what I like.

    I am removing the tub and making a steel tray,60L fuel tank,40L water tank,dog crate say 25kg plus 100kg of dogs,usual camping gear say 60kg.

    What I was thinking is a 2" lift with what rate springs though to keep a nice soft ride whilst unloaded ? As its not that much weight really so could I get away with standard 2" rear springs from a 110 ?
    With shocks I was considering buying bilstien's but don't really want to buy standard run of the mill ones but was instead looking towards something such as some 7100's but at what travel and what valving for my needs I have no idea ?

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    Chief,

    As a 130 owner who on light trips would carry your load and on heavy trips double or triple it.

    Lose the inner springs - install polyairs in their place.
    The ride will be a tonne more compliant and less harsh - it will actually sag LESS with the poly airs than the 180lb/in inners and a load on board.

    Longer dampers will also remove some of the harshness as at unloaded weights and standard shocks there is less than an inch or so of down travel...

    Once you have a settled setup you will experience just how good that extra 17" of wheel base is on broken roads... a 130 floats over stuff that 100s and 110s get a little twitchy on.

    I would also say, only lift it if you want to run bigger rubber than 255/85s.
    Standard height just works

    S
    '95 130 dual cab fender (gone to a better universe)
    '10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)

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    Have you thought about changing to air springs at the rear, they allow you to adjust the ride quality depending on how much weight you have on the back. Quite a bit of information available on here.

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    I've got a steel tray off my 130 and looking for a tub if you're interested. Just a pitty you're in Sydney.

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    Hi. Good choice of vehicle! I have lifted the rear of mine by 40mm but only to disguise the 285 tires. The front went up by 75mm. I made heavy duty spacers as I was happy with the STD ride, but don't like the low nose stance of 110's and 130's. As said before, remove the inner spring and replace with an assisted air bag. This gives you the softer ride when traveling light, but the option to inflate the bag when laden. If you go for just air bags, should one rupture you have little options but to stop. (not sure how common this is but I wouldn't want to find out in the middle of whoop whoop!). Pic enclosed of SWIMBO and I on the roof of ours taking photo's in the High Country... Our traveling companions thought it amusing!! The tray is missing its headboard as we have the detachable body back in camp on its legs!! 'Detachable camp body' in projects and tutorials if ya want more tray/body ideas.
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    Thanks for the replies guys very helpful indeed....
    Unfortunately I am making a custom tray with a mate sorry .
    Nice looking tray sitec looks mint only thing I would need to add would be a head board as it would be a must with my hobby...I am running 285/75/16 neg25's and have noticed the front is considerably low so would like to rectify...I was considering running 2" lift maybe even flexi coils but compensate for when I load it up by installing load assist bags in the rear...
    I am loving this 130 I looked at a cruiser v8 duel cab but just could not bring myself to driving a 2013 model car that's 20k dearer and still has leaf springs it goes better than the 2.4 ever did and I cannot wait to get it setup correctly for big trips.
    Ill post pics up one day

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    Hi c.h.i.e.f, here's a pic of the nose of mine... This is with 285's and 75mm/3" lift. Just gives you an idea what yours might look like. I have a headboard that usually lives on the tray, but these pics were taken when we were on holiday with the detachable camp body so the headboard stays at home.
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    I agree with roverrescue. You're only looking at 450-550kg total tray and load. So standard coils will work fine. 130 outers are the same as 110 outers, it's the inner that bumps the pay load up.
    Rear coils are 320Lb per inch, inners are 140Lb per inch. They don't increase as compressed.

    If you want/like standard ride but higher Les Richmond can custom wind coils for you. I have purple in the front to cope with bbar and bits, and 2" custom orange green on the rear with standard inners. But you will need to lower bumps, and longer travel shocks.

    The car rides nice at full payload 1.5T, and I'm happy with it empty. But empty is also 300kg static tray with add ons.
    Jason

    2010 130 TDCi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitec View Post
    Hi c.h.i.e.f, here's a pic of the nose of mine... This is with 285's and 75mm/3" lift. Just gives you an idea what yours might look like. I have a headboard that usually lives on the tray, but these pics were taken when we were on holiday with the detachable camp body so the headboard stays at home.
    That looks nice how it sits...with a 3" lift did you notice a difference in steering ? Did it start to wander ? A DC front prop shaft would most likely be a must ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newhue View Post
    I agree with roverrescue. You're only looking at 450-550kg total tray and load. So standard coils will work fine. 130 outers are the same as 110 outers, it's the inner that bumps the pay load up.
    Rear coils are 320Lb per inch, inners are 140Lb per inch. They don't increase as compressed.

    If you want/like standard ride but higher Les Richmond can custom wind coils for you. I have purple in the front to cope with bbar and bits, and 2" custom orange green on the rear with standard inners. But you will need to lower bumps, and longer travel shocks.

    The car rides nice at full payload 1.5T, and I'm happy with it empty. But empty is also 300kg static tray with add ons.
    Thanks
    I will look into it...I'm lost as to how to order the correct shocks though

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