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    R380 Grumbles

    Happily motoring along a few days ago Val says "what that new noise"
    I could hear nothing.

    Yesterday I could hear it, Every gear except 4th is growling. Bugger.

    Its been as quiet as a mouse until now. I dropped the oil this morning & relieved to find no chunks, just the usual hairy stubble on the magnetic plug & fairly clean oil. Added 2 1/4 liters and Moreys for the rest.
    Will keep out of 5th.

    A fair bit quieter with the Moreys, got about 2000klm before we get back to Sydney, which has to be 1st week Aug, just hope it holds together , got it booked in at Graeme Cooper, dont have time or workshop to wait for one from Ashcrofts.

    Once a R380 start grumbling, how long generally can you get out of them?
    I might add I'm towing a Van too.

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    I have a good used Defender R380 box here in North Sydney.

    Case needs a lug welding back on and it may need a new shaft as its been out o a car for a while. But it's a good box and here if you need one quick.

    Jon

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    Jon

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    How many K's are on the box and what oil are you running?. Do the Defender's have the oil cooler like the Disco?. May be some of the problem that the box is running too hot...?
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    Robbo

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    I had a look at your web page www.goingbush.com
    Awesome work guys and it has a great guide to TD5 defenders. As well as some cool old defenders.

    It says on there that he has an oil cooler for the gearbox. And larger fins on the transfer case.

    Wish I found the guide on the TD5 defender earlier its a cracka.

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    Don I cant answer your question but if you are running 2.5 litres of Moreys in the R380 this may not be good.
    Years ago we tried to run 100% Moreys in Unimog Portals and found that you couldnt go above 80% or they would overheat.
    Might be good to seek Ricks advice on that.
    Sounds like its layshaft bearings if its doing it in gears 1-3 although I would of thought your box would have done the support bearings on 5th gear,
    I saw a couple of your onboard camera videos and was wondering how long the R380 would last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbotd5 View Post
    How many K's are on the box and what oil are you running?. Do the Defender's have the oil cooler like the Disco?. May be some of the problem that the box is running too hot...?
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    Robbo
    Just clocked over 186,000 km , I've always used Castrol Syntrans in it.

    Its got a aftermarket oil cooler & runs fairly cool.


    Quote Originally Posted by djam1 View Post
    Don I cant answer your question but if you are running 2.5 litres of Moreys in the R380 this may not be good.
    Years ago we tried to run 100% Moreys in Unimog Portals and found that you couldnt go above 80% or they would overheat.
    Might be good to seek Ricks advice on that.
    Sounds like its layshaft bearings if its doing it in gears 1-3 although I would of thought your box would have done the support bearings on 5th gear,
    I saw a couple of your onboard camera videos and was wondering how long the R380 would last.
    Thanks Duane ... I think, its only got 250ml Moreys, the rest is Syntrans,
    its getting louder , Ive never worried about the weak 5th gear 'wifes tails" as mine has always been tight as a drum & as quiet as a mouse, I'm very suprised, ( disillusioned ?) it had gone downhill without notice, I changed the oil only 1500klm ago and it was clean after 10,000km .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Jon View Post
    I have a good used Defender R380 box here in North Sydney.

    Case needs a lug welding back on and it may need a new shaft as its been out o a car for a while. But it's a good box and here if you need one quick.

    Jon

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    Thanks Jon, Much appreciated, just hope I can make it back to Sydney, without a big bang, will drop you a pm if the situation gets dire

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    Don I have a spare but am probably a bit far away from you
    I am wondering if a roamerdrive and running in 4th gear is the answer
    That said I know my TD5 can easily squeel the tyres when I have one of Jose's tunes on it and the roamerdrive wont deal with the layshaft bearings

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    Goingbush.
    Sounds to me that you have done your best to look after the box. Hope it is something simple mate. Towing my 23ft van I'm wondering when mine will scream ENOUGH!!!!. I'm running Syntrans as well.
    Regards
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    Don, could be either the front or rear layshaft taper roller bearing, and yes the difference between silent and noisy is only a few flecks of hardfacing away...

    I would spend as much time in 4th gear as you can, once it is noticeably noisy then the bearing/s are pretty much on borrowed time. That said, be gentle, it would probably get you home.

    At least you can slow down and enjoy the scenery some more

    JC
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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