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  1. 16th July 2013, 04:45 PM #1
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    wheel spacers

    Does anyone know if i can legally fit wheel spacers to my 130 in qld?I want to reduce my turning circle from a road train down to say a semi.You can fit them to landcruisers but i suppose they are special.
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  2. 16th July 2013, 04:55 PM #2
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    You can but don't get caught..... Or have an accident and try to claim.

    WHEEL STUDS AND NUTS, LOCK RINGS
    Reasons for rejection:
    • Wheels/rims are not fitted with the correct number and type of nuts and studs.
    • Studs/nuts are not securely fitted, are damaged and not engaged for at least the same thread
    length as provided originally by the vehicle manufacturer.
    • Spacer plates are used between hub and wheels (except where fitted by the vehicle
    manufacturer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by VM_Motori View Post
    You can but don't get caught..... Or have an accident and try to claim.
    So if you can fit them but can't get caught that sounds like it isn't actually legal...
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  4. 16th July 2013, 07:36 PM #4
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    Are they actually legal for cruisers?

    I reckon they'd be safer as you could make the rear track identical to the front, but I doubt it would be legal...
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    All illegal
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    Just to state it plainly, wheel spacers are illegal to use on the road in all Australian states and territories. (except where fitted by manufacturers).

    You can argue whether this ought to be the case, but it does not alter the current status. As with most blanket rulings about equipment, it probably is the result of a very few cases where serious accidents have resulted from poorly engineered or implemented spacers.

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  7. 16th July 2013, 08:00 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeatherWeightDriver View Post
    So if you can fit them but can't get caught that sounds like it isn't actually legal...
    Mate 60% of anything on a supercheap or repco shelf can get you booked still they sell and still people do

    I am stating that the OP has the choice I provided the TMR rules anything after that is his choice.

    I am not on this forum to "TELL" people what to do like other's on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VM_Motori View Post
    Mate 60% of anything on a supercheap or repco shelf can get you booked still they sell and still people do

    I am stating that the OP has the choice I provided the TMR rules anything after that is his choice.

    I am not on this forum to "TELL" people what to do like other's on here.

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    It is not about telling, it is about encouraging people to do the lawful thing and to not act fraudulently, or risk the physical wellbeing and welfare of others, by so doing.

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    Someone correct me If I am wrong. I believe you can increase wheel track by a maxium allowable 2 inches total (1 inch each side) in Qld. If so, get some rims with some more offset/backspacing to get them outboard a little. Not wider rims, just different offset/backspacing to what you have now.

    I would need John to step in here, but I would think that 1 inch more offset be the same increase in forces as 1 inch wheel spacer and normal rim????
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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
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    I would need John to step in here, but I would think that 1 inch more offset be the same increase in forces as 1 inch wheel spacer and normal rim????
    Overall, yes, but there is the additional problem is with the spacers themselves. There are two types of spacer - ones that are like a simple washer between the wheel and the hub - with this, the load on the stud itself is considerably increased in a way not anticipated when designed. The second type has the spacer attached by nuts as the wheel would be, but the spacer is fitted with a second set of studs half a stud spacing round from the studs in the hub. In this case the stress on the material of the spacer is quite high, and it would be difficult to establish that there is sufficient strength to give an adequate safety factor, and further to give sufficient rigidity. An additional problem that may arise is ensuring the nuts securing the spacer cannot loosen. It is clear that the authorities have decided, probably based on experience, that it is too difficult to ensure these factors.

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