Thread: Talk me into a Deefer vs a JK Unlimited

Originally Posted by Frank_Grimes

While I know you're joking, and the AULRO community does seem close knit and genuine, the ladies and gents over at ausjeepoffroad.com also have a great community - if not a little divided by model type (I only really got to know the XJ Cherokee drivers).

I was only half joking...

Jeep really are diluting their hardcore off-road credentials lately with their "she bought a Jeep" ad campaign. Volume sale models like the Patriot & Compass don't help either. And what the **** have they done to the latest Cherokee? It looks like someone slammed a garage door on the front! ... and Jeep branded prams and baby capsules FFS???

At least Land Rover are not so far down that road (cough... Evoque... cough).

Originally Posted by solmanic

I was only half joking...

Jeep really are diluting their hardcore off-road credentials lately with their "she bought a Jeep" ad campaign. Volume sale models like the Patriot & Compass don't help either. And what the **** have they done to the latest Cherokee? It looks like someone slammed a garage door on the front! ... and Jeep branded prams and baby capsules FFS???

At least Land Rover are not so far down that road (cough... Evoque... cough).

dont like to rock the boat but....

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I own a 110 ('12) and love it... I'd say buy one. (Fender and series drivers wave to each other too!)

Originally Posted by Barra1

If you need to be "talked into buying a Defender" you don't qualify to own a Defender.
End of story.

x 2. Or a Jeep for that matter. Dig deep, ignore everyone else, figure out who you really are, what you truly want then go and get it. If it's a defender then come back to us. If it's a jeep (or something else) then go and be with your own kind. Only then will you be truly free...

how about a Super Jeep

Self drive super jeep trips in Iceland. Visit the Golden Circle on a super jeep and go lava caving in the South-West of Iceland. / U-drive Golden Circle

I think I need a holiday


..... in Iceland

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Maybe check this mob out.... for a test drive

I have a 110. One day a man came to me and told me how much he liked my car, but he couldn't buy it due to high price (here Puma 110 costs around 2 times the price of Unlimited Rubicon Diesel fully equipped). Days ago, he had gone in his Unlimited Rubicon to an island near Cartagena with 3 friends. It's a road full of potholes where normal cars can't go faster than 20 kph, a good 4x4 can goes safely at about 50. He went around 60 and came back with 2 busted shock absorbers, a problem in the steering and some strange vibration in the front. At that time, I used to go 100kph in that road, loaded with 10 people and luggage (didn't have a job and goes as transport for tourists). The Defender never missed a bit.

Cartagena is a strategic point in the trip Alaska - Ushuaia (Argentina). In 4 years I've been working here, I have seen around 50 Defenders (110 and 130) and only one Jeep Wrangler (also saw a Cherokee once). The Wrangler was full with a few things from his one-person crew and the suspension was close to the floor (the owner told me schock absorbers died when crossing Mexico and the springs fainted when in Guatemala, they were going to be changed in Bogota). My city is full of Wranglers, very comfy for daily use, but not the car if your really want to go off road with some gearing inside.

For me, in off road Wrangler is at least as capable (I think it better really) as any Defender out of the box, but as soon as you put 50kg in the back the things are gonna go weird....

It sounds like you want a play thing more than a expedition rig - load carrying capacity is the one thing that truly separated these two vehicles.

As a dyed in the wool Landy nut I'd still get a Defender for your intended use - but I think the Wrangler would probably be a better choice ie good styling, slightly more civilised, better access to a better range of aftermarket mods, and extremely capable off road.

Plus you're asking to be talked into a Deefer - which means it isn't your first choice. A Deefer isn't something you should need to be talked into - neither is a Wrangler - you either know you want one or you don't. And my guess is you know you want the Jeep...

Originally Posted by n plus one

It sounds like you want a play thing more than a expedition rig - load carrying capacity is the one thing that truly separated these two vehicles.

As a dyed in the wool Landy nut I'd still get a Defender for your intended use - but I think the Wrangler would probably be a better choice ie good styling, slightly more civilised, better access to a better range of aftermarket mods, and extremely capable off road.

Plus you're asking to be talked into a Deefer - which means it isn't your first choice. A Deefer isn't something you should need to be talked into - neither is a Wrangler - you either know you want one or you don't. And my guess is you know you want the Jeep...

Actually leaning a little more towards the Defender at this point due to the load carrying capacity.