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    Air intakes, snorkels and brands

    Yep.' Search function 'is my friend but have specific question and phone searching is useless.

    Mantec v safari v other brands
    Safari
    1. Mate who has safari told me they are better because all one piece to air box. True? If so is this better?

    2. I like the Landrover/ Manteca style look the best but a Landrover specialist mechanic in town told me they were crap because the actually pipe was too narrow. True?

    3. He had a Bermach or something that he said was the best but to me it looked hideous, but my knowledge is thin And know plenty of knowledge out there. How important is the diameter of the pipe?

    And before everyone says Nugget, yep was planning on sealing it with nugget kit so has some snorkel capabilities

    My understanding is
    1. Higher air intake so sucking less dust and crap
    2. Possible to get sealed and helps you in water crossings- in that you don't suck water if you stall or level comes too high.

    Please correct my inaccuracies and forgive my ignorance. Thanks for any help.

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    Mainly go camping at beaches: fraser coollolaa, etc but also want to do trip up from rashie next year and to cape following year. So just wanting to make the car right. This is the car till I die- I hope so want to do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimb View Post
    Yep.' Search function 'is my friend but have specific question and phone searching is useless.

    Mantec v safari v other brands
    Safari
    1. Mate who has safari told me they are better because all one piece to air box. True? If so is this better?

    2. I like the Landrover/ Manteca style look the best but a Landrover specialist mechanic in town told me they were crap because the actually pipe was too narrow. True?

    3. He had a Bermach or something that he said was the best but to me it looked hideous, but my knowledge is thin And know plenty of knowledge out there. How important is the diameter of the pipe?

    And before everyone says Nugget, yep was planning on sealing it with nugget kit so has some snorkel capabilities

    My understanding is
    1. Higher air intake so sucking less dust and crap
    2. Possible to get sealed and helps you in water crossings- in that you don't suck water if you stall or level comes too high.

    Please correct my inaccuracies and forgive my ignorance. Thanks for any help.

    Usage
    Mainly go camping at beaches: fraser coollolaa, etc but also want to do trip up from rashie next year and to cape following year. So just wanting to make the car right. This is the car till I die- I hope so want to do it right.
    I have Safari with a Nugget kit - sealed up nicely and frees up the engine nicely (TDCi)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by n plus one View Post
    I have Safari with a Nugget kit - sealed up nicely and frees up the engine nicely (TDCi)..
    Hi mate, is yours 2.2 or 2.4?

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    2.4 puma

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    Sorry not a question for me.

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    Hi Jimb,

    Unfortunately your "Land Rover Specialist" clearly doesn't know what he's talking about...

    Mantec does an enormous amount of R&D on their products as they supply Land Rover with a number of their OME options right through the vehicle range. They have in fact over the years supplied most of the add on's to the Camel Trophy vehicles and all the add on's to the G4 Challenge vehicles. There is absolutely nothing wrong with their pipe diameter and their intake head has had serous development on its own to ensure the cleanest air delivered to the airbox possible.

    They are however "Raised Air Intakes" (RAI) and not snorkels in the true sense of the word. You can however make it a "snorkel" with an add on product like Nugget's duct (you have to do that in any case with a Safari as well).

    I have a Mantec on my 2.4 Puma and I can assure you that my vehicle gets more than enough air to perform as required. In my opinion the unique look suits the car and the general construction and manufacture quality is top notch.

    When you make your choice, do it on your own merits and not based on other peoples ill judged brand bias.

    Cheers,

    Lou

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlueOne View Post
    Hi mate, is yours 2.2 or 2.4?
    2.4 - 2009 110

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    Lou,

    Thanks mate. Yeah, I need to rely on other opinions to make a decision- but I was reasonably confident the Mantec was good, because it is the same as the LR one, but not from a knowledge based decision- just some deductive logic.
    So
    Q1. any answers on the one piece of safari? v mantic?
    Q2. pipe diameter. A. No problems with Mantec


    Function of a snorkel question (once you have turned a RAI into a snorkel)
    So something that I am still a little confused about. air comes in, then through the air box, then to the engine. Currently without a snorkel, I am assuming/hoping expecting that when it rains, washing car etc there is a one way value in there somewhere that allows the water to get out?
    Q. Is this correct?

    When people talk about nuggets system/or similar sealing system, does this mean you are sealing everything around the air box in case you got yourself in a position where the air box inside engine bay was under water, it could not suck water in -
    Q BUt if water does get in how does it get out?

    Q. Also, if the air box can suck air in, how useful is a RAI if the air is still getting sucked in through the warm engine bay and potential dusty conditions?

    Thanks to Lou, Pat, tombie and you other LR tragics who have a chance to educate.
    jim
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    Air intakes, snorkels and brands.

    Maybe this thread might help a bit, it shows the drain thingy, where it is and how to seal it.

    Defender2 - View topic - Mantec RAI to snorkel conversion on puma

    Also, as you already know, there is nuggets stuff to put in there as well.
    Actually talking/reading about nugget, there is a very good build up thread of his defender on the website Hummer X Club
    Mike.

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    The standard air box system has a number of one way drain valves. As these valves have a habit of playing up, most people silastic them up when fitting a snorkel. The Safari head has flutes which remove rain however if you jam a hose in the snorkel with a fully sealed system tge water will either a) lay in the bottom of the air box and evaporate and be consumed by the engine, b) be of sufficient volume that the engine consumed it in a liquid form and hydraulics or c) flows out of the manual drain plug you installed while fitting your snorkel and sealing your air box.

    Hope this helps - no idea re airflow rates between different snorkels.

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