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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    What's the gvm on the 6wds? Act and nsw you can run up to 4.5t gvm on a standard license, after that it's just a medium rigid license, as for log books, that's totally up to you, it's not a legal requirement until you go over 13.5t gvm and then only for greater than 100km radius of your base.
    5.6t
    There are new logbook rules coming into effect soon. I don't know what they are yet.

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    Jeepers, they are heavy buggers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    Jeepers, they are heavy buggers..
    5.6t is the maximum combined weight of the vehicle and load.
    They can carry heaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    5.6t is the maximum combined weight of the vehicle and load.
    They can carry heaps.
    I believe the term is a 'tactical ****load'

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    The tare (unladen weight) is 3260kg so the payload is only 2340kg, not sure if that equates to heaps. I would still prefer one of the Mitsubishi Canter 4X4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    What's the gvm on the 6wds? Act and nsw you can run up to 4.5t gvm on a standard license, after that it's just a medium rigid license, as for log books, that's totally up to you, it's not a legal requirement until you go over 13.5t gvm and then only for greater than 100km radius of your base.
    Car licence to 4.5t GVM, LR from 4.5t to 8t GVM, Over 8t, MR for 2 axles, HR for more axles. Logbook (now called "Work Diary") required for vehicles over 12t GVM, or Truck and Trailers with GCM over 12T for work outside 100km radius of home depot.

    Licence classes < Licensing < Roads and Maritime Services
    Heavy vehicle driver fatigue - FAQs < Fatigue < Road safety < Heavy vehicles < Roads and Maritime Services

    The record keeping requirements when Driver Fatigue regs kick in are a bit of a nightmare/grey area for private recreational use of heavy vehicles (as you are not just the "Driver", you are also the "Operator"), so try to keep under the 12t GVM/GCM where-ever possible (ie tow nothing behind your Unimog!). The Operator is required to keep a record of ALL the vehicles movements for a period of 3 years, irrespective of whether the Driver was required to compile a Work Diary entry for those journeys or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 303gunner View Post
    <snip> ....
    The record keeping requirements when Driver Fatigue regs kick in are a bit of a nightmare/grey area for private recreational use of heavy vehicles (as you are not just the "Driver", you are also the "Operator"), so try to keep under the 12t GVM/GCM where-ever possible (ie tow nothing behind your Unimog!). The Operator is required to keep a record of ALL the vehicles movements for a period of 3 years, irrespective of whether the Driver was required to compile a Work Diary entry for those journeys or not.
    So when a heavy vehicle is on Historic Rego, is the operator still required to keep a log of all vehicle movements? (Outside the requirements of the Club register)

    Haven't had to use my log book for ages (pliocene or maybe it was pliestocene) and my work diary is still a virgin!

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    I did say it was a Nightmare/Grey area!

    There is nothing in the regulations for fatigue record keeping that exempts an Operator for recreational or Historic use. The Rules are, if it's over 12t GVM/GCM, records must be kept. If you drive for a living and use your own heavy vehicle for recreation purposes, then your private use would also have to be recorded by your employer for their fatigue management records, even though you may not go outside a 100km radius of home.

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    "Record keeping under the work diary exemption
    For which work diary exemption must the record keeper record information?
    The record keeper must keep records for:
    • ........
    • Drivers covered by the local journey work diary exemption; and
    • .........
    What are the responsibilities of the record keeper?
    The record keeper must record the following information as soon as possible:
    • Driver’s name, licence number and contact details;
    • The dates the driver drives a regulated heavy vehicle;
    • The registration number of the heavy vehicle;
    • The total of the driver’s work and rest time for each 24 hour period and week;
    • The driver’s rosters, trip schedule and details of changeover; and
    • The driver’s base for each journey."
    Logbook offences and fatigue management are two things the RMS don't turn a blind eye to very often, but they don't like to readily explain or eliminate anomalies. I suppose it might be a question to put to the Education Officer for a ruling.

    But aren't we straying off the topic of this thread? Logbooks and record keeping not required at all for 6x6 Perentie.

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