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    Quote Originally Posted by pannawonica View Post
    Pete Bell put a V8 diesel into a Defender! however I still think the best conversion would be the 3.2 Puma. I base this on the fact I have just driven the Ranger 3.2 auto a good combination. He also gets power and torque valves above the Toyota 4.5. With the 5 cylinder like the TD5 you get overlapping power strokes much better than a 4 . His conversion looks factory! but it comes in at a price.
    I agree with you on the Mazda/Ranger engine. Common here, whereas BMW not so common here.

    In Europe the BMW donk is more common.

    Have you considered a BMW diesel?? The 2.5 straight 6 diesel will bolt up to a R380 gear box from a P38 range rover. If you fancy more power go for the 3.0 straight 6 (M57 engine code). Good for 284 hp and 500 Nm at 2000 rpm.... They are common engines in the uk in BMW x5, 330 , 530 cars. Ecu on earlier engines will run standalone. It cost a whole £135 to stop the ecu from looking for the BMW key for my unit.... Fully dressed engine is 210 - 220 kg.
    I don't know of Pete Bell conversions with the BMW. I can't remember who exactly, but I think it is Jeremy Fearn who is considered the person to see for this conversion in the UK.

    Pic from Jeremy J Fearn Intercoolers, motor engineers and 4X4 specialists


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    That kit for the TD6 from Jeremy Fearn is no long available . For the L322 at least. The 5L40E trans couldn't handle the power. We exchanged emails on this subject some time ago as I have a L322 TD6. He may do something if the TD6 was transplanted into something else with a different trans . Could always ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33chinacars View Post
    That kit for the TD6 from Jeremy Fearn is no long available . For the L322 at least. The 5L40E trans couldn't handle the power. We exchanged emails on this subject some time ago as I have a L322 TD6. He may do something if the TD6 was transplanted into something else with a different trans . Could always ask.

    Gary
    It is current on his site, but probably as you say, for conversions with a different trans.

    However I posted it as much for showing stock torque/power for Judo's question in the previous post.

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    Thanks John.

    The figures look good, but for my budget, I think I'll stick to my 4BD1T.

    TD6 would be nice though! I encourage other to do it and post pics for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitec View Post
    LRO March Issue 3 has one in a Range Rover Classic.. It's not a huge article, but the story paints it as a hard conversion to do... Chassis rails in way of turbos etc etc. Once in they said that the power was "comparable to a 3.9 EFI but with better economy". It'd be a lot of work but fun!
    Wasn't that a TDV6?
    Still, according to Simtek (the company that does the ECU conversion) it'll do 40mpg on an auto in a P38, that's pretty smart.

    There's a few P38's got the 3 litre in em, apparently it's a bolt in conversion for the most part, not sure what people have done to make them work though, I doubt the P38 ECU would run the L322 3 litre though?

    BMW Defenders were produced CKD in SA from the start of the Td5 era to around 02/03, maybe longer.
    From what I know of them they used the same bellhousing as diesel manual P38's with a V8 spec chassis (in terms of engine mounts etc) whilst the block mountings were flat plates bolted to the side with brackets to mount the rubbers on.

    So, in theory doable without needing custom parts, just the electronics o take care of.
    I have a mate who used to have an SA 90 with the 2.8, which he says was an absolute road burner, it would take off like a scalded cat from standstill and pull all the way up to the 7000rpm redline, with aerodynamics halting rapid progress around 90mph.

    I suspect a suitably tuned diesel would be pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush65 View Post
    It is current on his site, but probably as you say, for conversions with a different trans.

    However I posted it as much for showing stock torque/power for Judo's question in the previous post.
    Hasn't been change since I talked with him over 2 years ago when he said it was no longer available.

    Gary

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    Let's hope they get it right with the new defender.
    I'm happy with my td5.
    I can't see why you'd go to such expense when you can achieve respectable and some times incredible increases in torque thru just chipping exhaust and intercooler upgrades.

    A twin turbo td6 would be very sweet though.

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    There has been several attempts fit the 3.0 v6 diesel into the Defender, however there has only one person to actually make the engine run properly and have a normal lifespan. The actual problem is not the wiring harness or the fitting, but the programming. Bell Auto Services Northyorkshire would be able to advise, by the way I have no connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rok_Dr View Post
    Indeed I think you are right..... 2.8l six was it?

    Yep, it was the 2.8i from the 328 and 528 BMW models.

    Still one of the most reliable Defenders in SA, very sought-after in the second hand market.

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    In Land Rover World magazine they ran an article a couple years ago about fitting a Disco 3 TDV6 into a 110.

    It did however look like too much work to make it economically viable...

    Cheers,

    Lou

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