or not - I've never had a problem with tubeless tyres fitted to standard defender or series rimsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
on the other hand I have had problems with tube abrasion if tubes were fitted to tyres on those rims
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or not - I've never had a problem with tubeless tyres fitted to standard defender or series rimsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
on the other hand I have had problems with tube abrasion if tubes were fitted to tyres on those rims
You did see the "properly" part?Quote:
Originally Posted by 87County
You only get tube abrasion if there is a foreign object in the tyre or the tube is pinched/folded.
Everything points to the OP's tube being folded/pinched on installation.
Got pics of your tube damage?
Sorry no photos
But the mark was about 15mm wide 30 mm long a bit like a scuff with a few holes.
After ringing round I have found new HD steels suitable for a 130 for $114 delivered, From LR Automotive (got the details from another post here).
So that's the way I'm going, I know "just drive the thing" seems the go, I'm just trying to make the car as reliable as possible and eliminate as many problems as possible, after lots of searching on here there seems to be as many people for as against tubes/tubeless so decided to go with what I feel comfortable with.
Of course with the current oil leak (See other thread) the car is doing it's up most to save the tyre issue being a concern.
Cheers
Phil
sorry Dougal - didn't keep 'em - happened years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
I do understand that current thinking is that it is not "best practice" to fit tubeless to non-safety rims but I've never had a problem with LR rims
now I mostly use D1 rims
I have had tubes wear through because of the rough surface on the inside of the tyre, both with Michelins and Coopers, and generally the tubes only last half the life of the tyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
Jeff
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No-one has ever given me a plausible reason why tubeless tyres need a safety rim, while tubed tyres do not???Quote:
Originally Posted by 87County
Any offers?
Terry
Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by rover-56
A tubed tyre rim has the bead on an taper angle of about 5 degrees towards the inside of the rim. It doesn't take that much force to push the bead far enough in to break the seal.
This isn't a problem on a tubed wheel because it doesn't lose all it's air when the seal is broken.
In a situation like the one below, you can see how far the outer tyre is distorted.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...13/10/1190.jpg
With the second hump locking the bead in place it's pretty secure. But without there is very little stopping the tyre dumping the air and digging the rim into the road. Especially if (like 98% of the population) the tyre is soft because you haven't checked the pressure ever.
$165 a rim is a good price. I paid $220 each for mine, but they were brand new (black) tubeless ones. Had to spray them white myself, but that only took an hour or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by philandmickey
Tube rims without safety bead result in rapid deflation when cornering with low tyre pressure as apposed to safety beads which take a lot more effort to dislodge. Theyre just there to try to stop accidents.
Cheers,
Brian
OK both those answers make sense.
I am not saying safety rims are not better, but the tyre rolling off the rim at high cornering speeds and with silly low pressures are a bit at the extreme end of things. OK I know it can happen.
But in real life on a Land Rover tyre probably unlikely to happen. Well I have been running tubeless tyres on std LR rims for years and not had a roll off yet, even at low bush track pressures.
Sure, I know what the insurance assessor will say.....
Thanks for the answers:)
Terry