Thread: Puma 90 fuel consumption figures

Originally Posted by beefy

my 2.2 110 2013 , will bull bar winch snorkel etc sits at around 10.5-11.5lt all day every day. with the camper on 12.5lt.

Give me those figures and I'll be a very happy camper! I could live with that

But 13 empty is not good IMO.

Sorry heinz, I seemed to have jumped on your thread and stolen it Hope you don't mind, but it seems that we are in the same position.

Originally Posted by frantic

As far as I know a puma is supposed to be more efficient than my td5 110 and we used 12.5l per 100ks on our 3 day stay in batemans bay, full det(7_2adults 5 kids) their loose Gear and towing the ex army trailer 400 out of the 600k's(it was only carrying about 150-200kg of Gear+350 trailer weight). The 90 should be way more economical than my 110 as it has 300kg less to carry!

Actually the puma engine is less efficient than the TD5, but is more environmentally friendly.I get better fuel economy out of my TD5 than I've ever got out of the two PUMA's Iv'e owned. But the power of the PUMA is more enjoyable than the TD5, which might also explain the fuel economy.

One thing I've found is that I get better economy out of the PUMA by avoiding 6th gear on anything but complete flat. IF I favour 5th gear (which is direct 1:1 int he PUMA) then I do get a very slight improvement. But it could also be placebo effect....


The other way I get better economy - significantly better - is to let my wife drive - for some reason she gets about 10-20% better economy out of either Defender.

Originally Posted by debruiser

Sorry heinz, I seemed to have jumped on your thread and stolen it Hope you don't mind, but it seems that we are in the same position.

No worries, this is all good stuff!

I understand drag and the effect it has on economy, I'm just not convinced it would add 3l+/100km to a 90, especially when people are posting figures of 11/100 for fully loaded touring/towing in Puma 110/130's.

The jump in ours from 10.5l/100km (and steadily dropping) to 14l+/100 is quite dramatic.

Originally Posted by Lagerfan

No worries, this is all good stuff!

I understand drag and the effect it has on economy, I'm just not convinced it would add 3l+/100km to a 90, especially when people are posting figures of 11/100 for fully loaded touring/towing in Puma 110/130's.

The jump in ours from 10.5l/100km (and steadily dropping) to 14l+/100 is quite dramatic.

Agreed. It would be good to hear from people who have tried to solve the problem, with performance upgrades etc.

That drop in economy doesn't sound right at all and it might be worth having your dealer check it. If even your best effort doesn't improve the consumption there is definitely something wrong.

I never had consumption issues, but since my remap my 2.4's (BAS) fuel use is directly related to my right foot.

Driving with D4's and RR Sports (110 and a bit ) uphill and down hill will return as high as 12.2l/100km or 8.2km/l, mostly I suppose due to the garden shed aerodynamics. Daily driving around town just cruising with short shifts (lots of reserve power and no flat spots with the map loaded) I can get it as low as 9.3l/100km or 10.8km/l.

Combinations of the two (OK, less of the first one...) have the car averaging 10l/100km or 10km/l like clockwork.

Cheers,

Lou

Originally Posted by Loubrey

That drop in economy doesn't sound right at all and it might be worth having your dealer check it. If even your best effort doesn't improve the consumption there is definitely something wrong.

I never had consumption issues, but since my remap my 2.4's (BAS) fuel use is directly related to my right foot.

Driving with D4's and RR Sports (110 and a bit ) uphill and down hill will return as high as 12.2l/100km or 8.2km/l, mostly I suppose due to the garden shed aerodynamics. Daily driving around town just cruising with short shifts (lots of reserve power and no flat spots with the map loaded) I can get it as low as 9.3l/100km or 10.8km/l.

Combinations of the two (OK, less of the first one...) have the car averaging 10l/100km or 10km/l like clockwork.

Cheers,

Lou

Arn't remaps on the 2.2 Pumas still in developmental stages and only in UK or something like that

Originally Posted by debruiser

Arn't remaps on the 2.2 Pumas still in developmental stages and only in UK or something like that

I'm not sure... I know it used to be the case.

BAS does have shipping options on the 2.2 map which might indicate international options with the tuning device. All we need is a 2.2 owner putting an inquiry in.

https://secure.bellautoservices.co.u...ber=def22remap

Cheers,

Lou