Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 20 of 20

Thread: 300TDI very very high compression!!!

  1. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    10
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Ok, so from what I understand, I might not be doing the compression test well by not disabling the fuel injection. No matter if I plug the tester into the injector or the glow plug. By not disabling the fuel injection, that would give way to much pressure on the valve.

    When I start the engine, there is a black puff, every time.
    Once started, when running, iddle or driving, no smoke.
    If I press the pedal to give a lot of gaz, then, some black smoke.
    The engine start a little bit hard the first time in the morning when it's cold.
    After the first start, it start very well the rest of the day.
    When cold, before the engine get to is normal temperature, it's running not as smooth but it's very a small difference. When engine hot, it run very well.
    I have good power, good acceleration. The engine is not too noisy.
    No over heating issue.
    The oil color is perfect as well as the coolant color.
    Not white or coffee foaming in the oil cap.
    No oil into the coolant.
    If I open the cap of the coolant reservoir, fill it, and I give fuel, no bubble.

    I am loosing a bit of coolant, leaking from the head, when the engine is running. I think the gasket might have fail.

    Those are the result of my observation for diagnose of symptom.
    What do you guys think ?

    I am still not sure of what I do wrong with the compression test but I think I am not disabling the fuel from the injector.
    I am not sure how to do this and how to do a good compression test.
    I am reading the manuel right now and I am thinking about trying again, just want to be sure how to do it right and how to disable the fuel from injector.

    Thank's again everybody,
    I appreciate a lot all your advice and help.

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Melbourn(ish)
    Posts
    26,495
    Total Downloaded
    0
    sounds like about par for a tdi 300 that wants a little bit of maintenancy type loving.

    Its not common for the tdi to leak coolant from the head gasket to the outside world, thats usually the job of the P gasket, water pump, thermostat housing gasket, the vactuator, the heater hoses, the heater hose transfer pipe and the thermostat bypass pipe fittings.

    if you can confirm that it is definately leaking from the head its only a bout a days work to do an easy gasket change.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    10
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Yes, I confirm 100% that coolant is leaking from the head to the outside world.
    So yes, if it's the only problem, I will be very happy.
    I want to be sure that the cylinder compression is good so i want to try a good compression test. My tester only go into the heater plug.
    So, can you tell me exactly how to do it ?

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Melbourn(ish)
    Posts
    26,495
    Total Downloaded
    0
    theres only 2 compression checks you can do on a diesel.

    hot and cold.

    before you start ensure you have a very good cranking battery thats fully charged or hook up a set of jumper cables to another vehicle that has its engine running at high idle.

    for cold.

    remove the wire that goes to the solenoid on the fuel injector pump, this, in theory stops all fuel flow to the injectors. As a backup crack each injector line union at the injector by about 1/2 to a full turn.

    remove all your glow plugs

    install your compression tester to a cylinder and crank the engine on the key. Count the number of compression cycles (I use 6-10) and read the pressure on the gauge, record it.

    move the compression tester and crank the engine for the same number of compression cycles, record the pressure and then do the rest of the cylinders

    The hot test is the same but you do it on a warmed up engine. it should hit the same pressures on 2-3 less compression cycles or hit about 20% more pressure on the same number of cycles as the cold test.


    Something else thats worth doing while you have the glow plugs out is the leakdown test, this is done by blowing air into the cylinder through the glow plug hole with the piston at TDC on the compression/power stroke if you get air coming out the inlet your inlet valve is leaking, if it comes out the exhuast the exhaust valve leaks, excessively from the crank case ventilator and its the rings and out the cooling system and youve done a head gasket.


    best of luck
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    10
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Ok, that sound good. I will do all those test tomorrow and let you know what come out.

    Thank's a lot Dave.

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    10
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Back from the day!
    So, we did the compression test like you told us.
    And..... it work !!!! I have 410 to 420 in each cylinder.
    what a relief!!!!
    I will need to change the head gasket but that's it.
    I was so happy to see the result on the the gauge.

    Now, I can keep working on upgrading the truck for expedition

    Thank you so much for all your help and a special thanks to you Dave !!!

    Here a little picture of the truck!

    Thank's again and I will post most picture of the process of the building of the truck from beggining soon, into another thread!

    I wish you a very good day.

    Cheers,

    Matthieu

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    10
    Total Downloaded
    0
    My Defender
    Attached Images Attached Images

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Gaborone, Botswana
    Posts
    216
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Matthieu View Post
    Back from the day!
    So, we did the compression test like you told us.
    And..... it work !!!! I have 410 to 420 in each cylinder.
    what a relief!!!!
    I will need to change the head gasket but that's it.
    I was so happy to see the result on the the gauge.

    Now, I can keep working on upgrading the truck for expedition

    Thank you so much for all your help and a special thanks to you Dave !!!

    Here a little picture of the truck!

    Thank's again and I will post most picture of the process of the building of the truck from beggining soon, into another thread!

    I wish you a very good day.

    Cheers,

    Matthieu
    Matthieu -
    This is why I suggested that you post either here or on the landrovernet.com websites when I read your post on the SA 4X4 Community site!

    I've learned that these two sites have far more technically experienced members, capable of providing accurate and helpful support!

    Bon voyage!

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    10
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Thank's a lot for bringing me here and the good advice

    Merci

    Have a great day

    Matthieu

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Melbourn(ish)
    Posts
    26,495
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Matthieu View Post
    Ok, that sound good. I will do all those test tomorrow and let you know what come out.

    Thank's a lot Dave.
    Your welcome mate, thats what they pay me for, (well no-one here does but I spend a lot of time drunk at their expense)

    you can spot me a beer and consider yourself conscripted as a tour guide when I haul the family over your way for a vacation.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!