Thread: sourcing electric brake hubs - defender pattern

Originally Posted by MR LR

Not on trailers AFAIK

Absolutely it applies to trailers.

NCOP11 Section LS (VSB 14)
[B]4.2.2 Wheel Attachment[/B]
Replacement wheels must be designed for the particular hub/axle and have the same bolt/stud pitch circle diameter and the same centre location method. The wheel nuts or bolts must have the same tapers as the wheel. Wheels with slotted bolt/stud holes must not be used.
Replacement aluminium alloy rims must be located on the hub/axle by the same diameter centre spigot as the original wheel, using suitable adaptor rings where necessary.
Wheel nuts and bolts must have a thread engagement length at least equal to the thread diameter, except where specified otherwise by the vehicle manufacturer.
Wheel spacers (or adaptors for dual wheel conversions) between the wheel mounting face and the road wheel must not be used unless fitted as original equipment by the vehicle manufacturer.
Modifications to disc brake callipers, hubs and suspension and steering components to enable the fitting of replacement wheels must not be undertaken.

Originally Posted by DOD DEFENDER

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Oh, that was close!

1st up, thanks for the replies guys. I have been in contact with Dave from Melbourne trailers and he'll do 10" electric Brake Hubs with 16mm studs for $127.xx each. Just waiting on a price on freight to see if it's viable.

I could buy local ones at $160 but then i would still have to source new studs and knock the other ones out.

Diana...

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

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Replacement aluminium alloy rims must be located on the hub/axle by the same diameter centre spigot as the original wheel, using suitable adaptor rings where necessary.

... would you happen to know what classes as suitable adaptor ring?

Originally Posted by rijidij

This mob is in Perth, but they have a good online catalogue, there's three Landy pattern hubs on this page Trailer parts as well as blank hubs etc, with prices.
It looks like the C0120 hub might actually come with the proper 16mm studs for $75.50 each.

Cheers, Murray

Thanks for the website, i've contacted them but haven't heard back yet. I believe the ones you were looking at are standard hubs, not electric brakes, but looks like they do those as well.

I could buy local ones at $160 but then i would still have to source new
studs and knock the other ones out

If you are talking 10 inch ALKO drums DO NOT ASSUME that the holes for the splines of the studs are the same size for ALKO studs as Land Rover studs.

The ALKO stud holes are bigger so you have to redrill the hubs/drums in a different place to fit LR 16MM studs.
Ask me how I know.
Regards Philip A
PS that is for the larger 9/16 studs that ALKO supply in 5x6.5ins.

Originally Posted by rutmutt

Diana...

... would you happen to know what classes as suitable adaptor ring?

My guestimate would be anything that isn't also a spacer.

I have been thinking for some time that someone like AlKo or Wesco-Carter should manufacture electric brake hubs on the Land Cruiser parrallel bearings that are flush to the outside with a screw in spiggot/bearing cap for the RRS/D2/3/4/L322 PCD. They could also fit them with correct LR studs, so we can use LR alloy rims

That way with the positive offset of the latest Land Rover and Range Rover wheels the bearings will be correctly placed and Land Rover owners will be able to have common spares for heavier campers and trailers.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Absolutely it applies to trailers.

NCOP11 Section LS (VSB 14)
[B]4.2.2 Wheel Attachment[/B]
Replacement wheels must be designed for the particular hub/axle and have the same bolt/stud pitch circle diameter and the same centre location method. The wheel nuts or bolts must have the same tapers as the wheel. Wheels with slotted bolt/stud holes must not be used.
Replacement aluminium alloy rims must be located on the hub/axle by the same diameter centre spigot as the original wheel, using suitable adaptor rings where necessary.
Wheel nuts and bolts must have a thread engagement length at least equal to the thread diameter, except where specified otherwise by the vehicle manufacturer.
Wheel spacers (or adaptors for dual wheel conversions) between the wheel mounting face and the road wheel must not be used unless fitted as original equipment by the vehicle manufacturer.
Modifications to disc brake callipers, hubs and suspension and steering components to enable the fitting of replacement wheels must not be undertaken.

That seems to be talking about cars, not trailers, am I correct?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's illegal, though all he does is use longer studs so the spacer is not taking any load, but I'd like to know for curiosity's sake.

Unfortunately the only way to fit LR alloys (apart from 165 PCD type) is to use a spacer though.

Cheers
Will

heard back from Dave

$167.20 each for 10" electric brake hubs with 16mm studs (not 5/8ths like alko) and about $45 delivery (for two) to maitland NSW.

If you are running alloys you should get a centre spigot made up. Someone will tell you it's not necessary, blah blah, but I know of a D2 that had about 4 wheel balances before they worked out the issue was the RRS alloys not locating on the centre spigot, the same issue would be experienced with Deefer alloys. Steel wheels are fine they locate on the studs.

Cheers
Will