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    Slotted balls

    Hi Guys,

    I have some swivel balls I need slotted for castor correction, does anyone know where in Melbourne I can get this done?

    LRAutomotive can't do it till next week and i was hoping to get it done by the weekend,

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    Don't know of anyone else that offers the service, but its not a difficult job, and I'd expect any decent machinist should be able to do it for you (I've even done my own in the past in the drill press).

    You might struggle to get someone who hasn't done it before to finish it by the weekend though, and likely find they load the price accordingly.

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    I have a pair of slotted balls that are surplus to needs: Swivel Balls that is! and I am in Melbourne.

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    You could do them yourself with a round file and a few hours. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    You could do them yourself with a round file and a few hours. Seriously.
    I doubt it....... Seriously!

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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    You could do them yourself with a round file and a few hours. Seriously.
    Possibly, but you'd also need a few large buckets of enthusiasm.
    You'd also want to make sure that you protected the ball well or a few good pokes from the end of the file would gouge the chrome.

    IMO, the easiest way to do them yourself at home would be to get a couple of rings of 12mm steel laser cut with holes to match the existing holes in the ball flange. Sit the ring on the ball, rotate the holes to the desired position and tack weld the ring in place. Drill through the ring to give the holes in the new location, grind the tacks off and finish the slots with a die grinder.

    If you really wanted to do them with a file I'm happy to come over and document the process with a couple of beers, but guaranteed I won't be driving home afterwards

    Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveG View Post
    Possibly, but you'd also need a few large buckets of enthusiasm.
    You'd also want to make sure that you protected the ball well or a few good pokes from the end of the file would gouge the chrome.

    IMO, the easiest way to do them yourself at home would be to get a couple of rings of 12mm steel laser cut with holes to match the existing holes in the ball flange. Sit the ring on the ball, rotate the holes to the desired position and tack weld the ring in place. Drill through the ring to give the holes in the new location, grind the tacks off and finish the slots with a die grinder.

    If you really wanted to do them with a file I'm happy to come over and document the process with a couple of beers, but guaranteed I won't be driving home afterwards

    Steve
    You must be a very slow drinker for just a couple of beers for a job like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    You must be a very slow drinker for just a couple of beers for a job like this
    Per hole

    Steve
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    When I did the caster correction on my last car, I took the swivel housings to a local engineering shop, the bloke who owns the shop, whom I know reasonably well, said that if he were to take the job on, he would set his apprentice to it with a file rather than use the mill. Lamented about how filing is getting to be a lost art and everyone wants to do everything by machine, etc....explained how with a job like this it takes longer to set up in a machine than it would take to do with a file- also about $100 per hour more expensive.

    I did mine with an end mill in the drill press, cos I'm just as lazy a git as the rest of you lot. It was very hard on the morse taper of the drill press as they are not intended to take side loads.
    I think SteveG's suggestion would result in drunken holes as well as a drunk observer, as the drill would cut into the guide in an unpredictable manner. Might work with an end mill with flutes shorter than the thickness of the guide plate.
    My next set are going to be done with a milling arrangement in the lathe, using the jig I fabricated for the drill press arrangement. I could offer to do Duarte's but no way I would be able to spend the time to do a job like this within the next several weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    When I did the caster correction on my last car, I took the swivel housings to a local engineering shop, the bloke who owns the shop, whom I know reasonably well, said that if he were to take the job on, he would set his apprentice to it with a file rather than use the mill. Lamented about how filing is getting to be a lost art and everyone wants to do everything by machine, etc....explained how with a job like this it takes longer to set up in a machine than it would take to do with a file- also about $100 per hour more expensive.

    I did mine with an end mill in the drill press, cos I'm just as lazy a git as the rest of you lot. It was very hard on the morse taper of the drill press as they are not intended to take side loads.
    I think SteveG's suggestion would result in drunken holes as well as a drunk observer, as the drill would cut into the guide in an unpredictable manner. Might work with an end mill with flutes shorter than the thickness of the guide plate.
    My next set are going to be done with a milling arrangement in the lathe, using the jig I fabricated for the drill press arrangement. I could offer to do Duarte's but no way I would be able to spend the time to do a job like this within the next several weeks.
    All well and good, And yes at apprentice wages it possibly could be cheaper.

    AT a "few hrs" thats 180min, dived that by 14 holes and thats less than 13min per hole. How far and accurate could you file one hole in 13min?

    I had mine done by LRA, I can tell by the witness marks that the material is bloody hard. They are AM balls, all be it OEM (what ever that means these days) So maybe the Genuine are a little softer??

    But I still think hand filling and doing it accurately would be min of 8 hr job!

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