All discussions relating to the Defenders end of production

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Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

I think it could be better if it bore no resemblance to previous Land Rovers at all. What if it was entirely electric? What if it had a motor in each hub and no live axil at all? What if it had Torsion bar Suspension? What if it had no Ladder Chassis but a series of box frames which encapsulated the Operator and passenger spaces, from which everything was supported, including a cargo tray. It could outperform everything else on the market. It could be as Spartan or as luxuries as you like. IT COULD BE BLOODY AMAZING.

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Sounds fantastic Love it! Bring it on. ...but it won't be a Defender. If it's entirely new, drawn on a clean sheet, it'll need a new name. But yes something truly innovative like that could revive Land Rovers cred.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Dimensions the same?

A defender is the Anti-Tardis. Huge outside and small inside... [emoji56]

At least make it 6" wider.

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Have to disagree Tombie. Mine actually gets called the tardis. It has the most useable internal space of anything but a van IMO. Yes the rear door could be wider, but then you'd lose those great corners to store items in! Yes you could have a bit more elbow room, but then you'd lose that svelte ability to see directly below you and pick your way through narrow gaps when off roading, or simply parking. Yes the front windscreen could be bigger, but then you'd lose the shade! ...

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Dimensions the same?

A defender is the Anti-Tardis. Huge outside and small inside... [emoji56]

At least make it 6" wider.

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Or make the massive box between the seats 6 inches narrower and move the seats away from the doors or am I being too radical? :D
Chris

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Originally Posted by cafe latte

Or make the massive box between the seats 6 inches narrower and move the seats away from the doors or am I being too radical? :D

Chris

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Hand brake & Left Calve may disagree..

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Sounds fantastic Love it! Bring it on. ...but it won't be a Defender. If it's entirely new, drawn on a clean sheet, it'll need a new name.

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This I totally agree.

This is a new machine that's coming. Retire the Defender name and come up with something else.

If it's a new Defender but with the same dimensions, etc, the whole seat, steering column, pedals could come in board a little, depending on engine and gearbox used. This is what I would do if I were the designer.

If it's an entirely new vehicle, it could be anything. BUT then it's not a Defender (as above) and this thread doesn't make sense. It needs a whole new thread IMO...Fantastical Land Rover revolution vehicle?

It should be called OFFENDER and come standard with electric drive, autonomous mode, radar guided rockets, jumbo sized cup holders and a 'Maccas Hook' to hold the road-trip breakfast.

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Sounds fantastic Love it! Bring it on. ...but it won't be a Defender. If it's entirely new, drawn on a clean sheet, it'll need a new name. But yes something truly innovative like that could revive Land Rovers cred.

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"Revive Landrover's Cred"?!!!....Lol.
You cannot be serious. Landrover has more "Cred" at the moment than most other manufacturers on the planet.
Even totally "yuppy" vehicles like the Evoque Convertible (i'd never buy one!) are finding massive acceptance, with long waiting lists.
Just read the Press, & ya'll find Landrover has MASSIVE "Cred",....just because you, nor I, nor anyone else, knows what the "New" Defender will be, certainly does not mean, Landrover has lost its "Cred".
Whilst I appear to be the originator of this thread, I've largely stayed out of it of late, because there's just so much "pontificating" by certain members, who are talking about something about which they, nor any-one else, knows anything about, it's just plain silly.
One thing I'm certain of, well no not certain, but hopeful of, is Landrover's record of recent years, which is that every vehicle they've produced has been a well designed, well thought of,...WINNER.....and I am certain that is what the "New" Defender will be. It will be well thought out, it will be well designed, and it will be,...... a "winner"......in whatever configuration it appears.
The only thing I would like to see, & probably the only aspect of this discussion upon which we agree, is that if the vehicle is very "different", then I would like the Defender name to be discontinued,....regardless of how good the "New" vehicle is.
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Pickles2

"Revive Landrover's Cred"?!!!....Lol.
You cannot be serious. Landrover has more "Cred" at the moment than most other manufacturers on the planet.
Even totally "yuppy" vehicles like the Evoque Convertible (i'd never buy one!) are finding massive acceptance, with long waiting lists.
Just read the Press, & ya'll find Landrover has MASSIVE "Cred",....just because you, nor I, nor anyone else, knows what the "New" Defender will be, certainly does not mean, Landrover has lost its "Cred".
Whilst I appear to be the originator of this thread, I've largely stayed out of it of late, because there's just so much "pontificating" by certain members, who are talking about something about which they, nor any-one else, knows anything about, it's just plain silly.
One thing I'm certain of, well no not certain, but hopeful of, is Landrover's record of recent years, which is that every vehicle they've produced has been a well designed, well thought of,...WINNER.....and I am certain that is what the "New" Defender will be. It will be well thought out, it will be well designed, and it will be,...... a "winner"......in whatever configuration it appears.
The only thing I would like to see, & probably the only aspect of this discussion upon which we agree, is that if the vehicle is very "different", then I would like the Defender name to be discontinued,....regardless of how good the "New" vehicle is.
Pickles.

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Who's Pontificating about nothing? ..."One thing I'm certain of, well no not certain, but hopeful of..."

Yes pickles we are all flying blind here. One thing I do know is that JLR have put nowhere near as much effort into coming up with a Defender replacement as they have in developing all other models for many many years. Defender is over. Therefore any discussion about a fanciful new blank sheet model development really belongs in a new thread. Perhaps you'd like to start one if you think your perspective is the one that really counts?

Without Defender, Land Rover's cred as a manufacturer of serious 4X4 vehicles is significantly diminished. The lineage is broken and the brand is now 100% focussed on the luxury market. Just like Volvo, BMW, Porsche, etc. not much off road cred there I would suggest.

Land Rover will have their defenders on the road for many years to come. If they release a weak replacement the original land rovers will be well looked after. Long live the defender!