Thread: All discussions relating to the Defenders end of production

In the dual cab ute/ wagon derivative world it's going to get very interesting soon!
Firstly VW are finally going to put the v6 tdi3.0litre into the amarok, there's been rumours of a wagon version since 2012.
The very interesting one is the 4way partnership with Nissan/ Renault taking a controlling interest in Mitsubishi as well as having a joint development of a commercial ute with Mercedes Benz. Basically the 2019 navara will be a common underpinnings for merc, Renault and Mitsubishi to personalise with different skin and possibly engines.
This would be giving some food for thought at jlr over the next gen defender.

Originally Posted by SG1 Bones

I am going to through a curve ball and ask if there are any older generations on here that remember what the atmosphere was like when Land Rover went from being a Series to Defender. Maybe it will be a similar situation when/if there is a Defender predecessor. Considering that if it wasn't t for the Series models there would be no Defender and hence the 'New Defender'.

Nathan.

The Defender wouldn't have lasted long in production if it hadn't been for the success of the Discovery, as the Disco was the bread and butter that Land Rover relied on.

That aside, I bought a Stage 1 in 1987 as the 110's (as were) were far too expensive. It was to be 19 years before a Defender appeared in my driveway.

Originally Posted by frantic

In the dual cab ute/ wagon derivative world it's going to get very interesting soon!
Firstly VW are finally going to put the v6 tdi3.0litre into the amarok, there's been rumours of a wagon version since 2012.
The very interesting one is the 4way partnership with Nissan/ Renault taking a controlling interest in Mitsubishi as well as having a joint development of a commercial ute with Mercedes Benz. Basically the 2019 navara will be a common underpinnings for merc, Renault and Mitsubishi to personalise with different skin and possibly engines.
This would be giving some food for thought at jlr over the next gen defender.

Hello my friend.
What is the power & torque of the 3L V6 going into the Amarok?
You mention Navara. Do you remember the Navara "550"?..discontinued around a year ago I think,... V6 turbo diesel, 170KW, 550NM,..can't understand why they discontinued it,...I've spoken to a few owners,....who absolutely love it.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by numpty

The Defender wouldn't have lasted long in production if it hadn't been for the success of the Discovery, as the Disco was the bread and butter that Land Rover relied on.

That aside, I bought a Stage 1 in 1987 as the 110's (as were) were far too expensive. It was to be 19 years before a Defender appeared in my driveway.

Prices of 110's did skyrocket in the mid eighties with the introduction (in '83 IIRC) of the Isuzu County with coil springs and permanent 4WD - they actually doubled in price from '83 to '87. The County represented a huge change mechanically from the Series III.

I bought a new Isuzu County in late 1983 and (regretfully now) sold it by tender 10 years later for more than I paid for it - such was the market at the time.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Hello my friend.
What is the power & torque of the 3L V6 going into the Amarok?
You mention Navara. Do you remember the Navara "550"?..discontinued around a year ago I think,... V6 turbo diesel, 170KW, 550NM,..can't understand why they discontinued it,...I've spoken to a few owners,....who absolutely love it.
Pickles.

The latest 4 x 4 Australia has a story about the V6 going into the Amarok, but I can't remember the numbers.
Imagine the new Defender with LR's 3.0 V6 diesel - that would be something.

If Land Rover are committed to keeping it real...

it will be a 2 litre twin turbo with 8 speed manual transmission.....

It will be placed in a wind tunnel to make sure it can properly stop wind...

the interior noise will be finely tuned so you cannot hear any complaints....

This article on Jaguars 'nostalgia' division is interesting.

"Nostalgia-starved audiences and relatively cheaper costs make older vehicles prime candidates for car companies' identity-defining halo cars. As big manufacturers and smaller design firms continue chasing the trend, it might mean that the stylish, simple, soulful cars of yesteryear could stick around for years to come."

BBC - Autos - Why Jaguar

Originally Posted by SG1 Bones

I am going to through a curve ball and ask if there are any older generations on here that remember what the atmosphere was like when Land Rover went from being a Series to Defender.
... .... ....

Nathan.

You are asking about relative youngsters if you are asking about the change from Series to 110 and Defender.

Some of us remember the change from Series I to Series II.

Some, like John might be old enough to remember when there was no such thing as a Land Rover.