Thread: Surging Puma

Well, I have given her a new air filter, cleaned the. MAF sensor, checked everything else I can, but to no avail.

It seems every time you hit the slightest of inclines, she seems to starve for fuel. This is not noticeable so much in the city driving, but wow, out on the open road

I still have to change the fuel filter yet, that's a job for this coming weekend, and will also pull off the turbo hose to check if it's got a split in it. The symptoms feel just like it did when the hose went the first time.

Any info/insight as to where the problem could lay would be helpful guys.

Cheers guys.

My wife has a Peugeot common rail diesel that was surging after 60,000 km. The cause was put down to a gummed up fuel filter or carbon build up in the intake manifold. A new filter and some chemical treatment to the manifold has fixed the problem.

Thanks Rar110, I'm thinking the fuel filters probably got a lot to answer for in this instance too.
I'm running some 2stroke through her at the moment to help clean her up a bit too.

On the way home tonight from work, I've managed to get her booked into have the fitler changed after work Thursday by Ford, so looking forward to seeing how that works.

The only problem is, this arvo, the Ford guy said that they have had a few pumps let go,,,
Will wait and see.

Hi Guys.
Had this same drama just before xmas. Cleaned the MAF, filters etc. checked the EGR which was faulty but didn't fix the problem.This was all done at the dealers. Ended up they removed the fuel tank and found that there was like a vaseline/grease substance in the pick up lines for the fuel pump/sender. They replaced this entire unit as this gunk degraded the pipes.Problem solved. goes like new now.

Hmm, funny you should say that, but mine wasn't vass.

Over the past two weeks, have changed the air filter, cleaned the MAP,, these did nothing, then cleaned the MAF, this had a fair bit of dirt on it, deposited by water , I'm sure that shouldn't have happened, anyway, that helped a bit.
Thursday arvo, booked the car in with Ford in Dandenong to have the fuel filter done.
WOW,,, top blokes there, and the consensus was from three different mechs, that the filter has never been changed. This should have been done at 40k service,,, at the dealers
Emptied the filter onto a rag, lots of dirt, green paint flecks, ( from my Jerries) and when the tap at the bottom was opened up, out comes a heap of crappy looking ****, which kind of looked like clearish/pasty jelly

So I was expecting some dirt/crap, including the paint chips,, but the guys at Ford we're raising eyebrows as to why the jelly type stuff was there in such quantities.

Anyway, seems they don't use priming pumps etc, just air to push the fuel into the filter which worked well, but I think I'd still be a tad nervous doing it that way ,, so I'll be getting spare filters etc to do it all myself in future,,, just can't trust the dealers It's just so wrong that we pay so much, for what,,, to be told the jobs done,, pfff. ****ing *******.

Originally Posted by Chops

Hmm, funny you should say that, but mine wasn't vass.

Over the past two weeks, have changed the air filter, cleaned the MAP,, these did nothing, then cleaned the MAF, this had a fair bit of dirt on it, deposited by water , I'm sure that shouldn't have happened, anyway, that helped a bit.
Thursday arvo, booked the car in with Ford in Dandenong to have the fuel filter done.
WOW,,, top blokes there, and the consensus was from three different mechs, that the filter has never been changed. This should have been done at 40k service,,, at the dealers
Emptied the filter onto a rag, lots of dirt, green paint flecks, ( from my Jerries) and when the tap at the bottom was opened up, out comes a heap of crappy looking ****, which kind of looked like clearish/pasty jelly

So I was expecting some dirt/crap, including the paint chips,, but the guys at Ford we're raising eyebrows as to why the jelly type stuff was there in such quantities.

Anyway, seems they don't use priming pumps etc, just air to push the fuel into the filter which worked well, but I think I'd still be a tad nervous doing it that way ,, so I'll be getting spare filters etc to do it all myself in future,,, just can't trust the dealers It's just so wrong that we pay so much, for what,,, to be told the jobs done,, pfff. ****ing *******.

Hi Marcus, good news it wasn't a pump, but for having it serviced and never having changed the filter

I am happy to explain to Puma owners why we spend their $$ on new filters every major service, (They are a little exxy, even the aftermarket ones...) as CRD is very intolerant of poor fuel supply and quality. Interesting to note the 2.2 Puma def has an electric intank primer pump, (Like the D3 etc) where the earlier 2.4 doesn't.

I would treat the system with a biocide and then change the filter again after a few tankfuls. All should be OK then.

JC

Hi justin,
I was thinking of doing the filter again when I come back from our trip over Easter.
I'd finished writing my last post, then started a drive home, via Dandenong Ranges with Leeanne when the problem happened again . It did it twice in fact within only a few minutes, but then did'nt happen again for the rest of the trip. It was a lot lighter/less than previously when it did happen, but, it still happened. So we decided the filter would get another change over very soon.
I'll only get the chance to have this one tank go through before we head off, so when I get back is when it will have to be.

Cheers

Same experience for the Peugeot with one non dealer franchised motor servicing business. The fuel filter looked like it hadn't been changed in a long time, much longer than 10,000 km ago. I paid $70 for a filter that was probably never changed.

Good mechanical service is gold. Anything else is an expensive waste of time.