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Thread: 285/70 R16s on a puma 90?

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    285/70 R16s on a puma 90?

    Whats teh chances of being able to run a 285/70 R16 on a 90?

    Diameter is only 20mm over that of a 235/85 R16 but much wider

    could I fit them on stock puma wheels? or will I encounter too much rubbing issues?

    I will be up for new tires soon (egged one and have a few patches in another and probably 35% tred left anyway)

    I will have the Trailer behind me for most trips soon and Ive found the 235's a little skinny (could be beucase I was used to 265's before the defender) seems price from a 265/75 and a 285/70 are pretty close.

    Im not asking if I should stick with 235's or not as i know that will be msto peoples recomendations, what I am asking is if anyone has fitted 285/70 R16s to a Puma specificly a 90 if possible and what modifications are needed if any, asuming bigger offset wheels will be needed, that kind fo thing?
    and in comparison what is needed for 265/75 r16's.

    Thanks
    Leroy

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    Defender section has numerous posts on wider. Yes they will scrub n rub. My td5 with boost alloys +30mm did with 255/85(33.2in).Fitted spacers to Take it to zero. Others with 285 (33in)and 315 (35in)go -25mm offset wheels

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    I had searched and couldnt find anything puma specific about a 285's plent about which is the best tyre and whatnot though.

    The boost are the factory weels on a Puma yes?

    So i will likely need -25 offset Wheels to get them on, asuming if you needed 0's for 255's I would need 0's to go with a 265 also then. . .

    Thanks.

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    285s aren't a legal fitment on 7 inch rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by n plus one View Post
    285s aren't a legal fitment on 7 inch rims?
    I didnt even think about that. . . hmmmm

    thanks.

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    Interested in why you consider the 235's a "little skinny".
    You having traction issues? Falling between the gaps on log bridges or what??

    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveG View Post
    Interested in why you consider the 235's a "little skinny".
    You having traction issues? Falling between the gaps on log bridges or what??

    Steve
    strugling for traction a little though I put that down two the factory AT's

    main think is, even with pressures dropped down (25PSI) i find that I am sinking in the mud where friends in larger heavier 4wd's are not who have wider tires AKA 265's and 285's (a few also ahve 315's)
    maybe its just all in my head, the 235's seem fine up the beach at 20-25PSI though a bit iffy in the softer stuff though.

    did a little reading around, seems it could also be the traction control that is causing my issues not the skinny tires?

    Leroy.

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    Hello

    The 285s aren't legal fitment on 7" rims and will rub on the inner spring perches and front arms increasing the turning circle.

    If you want a little more and aren't too bothered by rolling diameter increase then look to the 255/85-16 sizes these are about perfect for a Defender in height and width although they are 33.3" high so without seeking 'approval' they are legally not a 'non certified' modification.

    If you are wishing to go a little wider, I would recommend sticking with the 265-75-16 (may rub still, depends where your vehicle was set up factory).

    Going too large width wise will penalise you a lot for fuel economy and drag.

    Avoid the trend if you can to go too wide, its more about looks than capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy_Riding View Post
    strugling for traction a little though I put that down two the factory AT's

    main think is, even with pressures dropped down (25PSI) i find that I am sinking in the mud where friends in larger heavier 4wd's are not who have wider tires AKA 265's and 285's (a few also ahve 315's)
    maybe its just all in my head, the 235's seem fine up the beach at 20-25PSI though a bit iffy in the softer stuff though.

    did a little reading around, seems it could also be the traction control that is causing my issues not the skinny tires?

    Leroy.
    25psi in a lightly loaded Defender isn't that low a pressure - I would typically go 16psi front, 22psi rear in my 110 at GVM for any decent mud and then go lower from there depending on conditions.

    I've run down as low as 6psi in the front in super soft sand - no dramas (particularly on factory alloys which have a far more agresdive safety bead than aftermarket steelie) just don't go fast or turn hard.

    Also keep in mind that low pressure tyres heat up and make pressure - 18psi in the morning can be 24psi by lunch - that's 33% increase in pressure which is massive - remember its not the psis it's the percentage change in pressure you need to be focusing on as it is a better indicator of tyre foot print. It's all about foot print - the longer the longer the better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy_Riding View Post
    strugling for traction a little though I put that down two the factory AT's

    main think is, even with pressures dropped down (25PSI) i find that I am sinking in the mud where friends in larger heavier 4wd's are not who have wider tires AKA 265's and 285's (a few also ahve 315's)
    maybe its just all in my head, the 235's seem fine up the beach at 20-25PSI though a bit iffy in the softer stuff though.

    did a little reading around, seems it could also be the traction control that is causing my issues not the skinny tires?

    Leroy.
    IMHO skinnier tyres are better off road everywhere. They get less sidewall staking than wider tyres and they are better in sand (I'm allowed my opinion ). The only downside to them is that being taller and skinnier means they will flex more on the road. If that's an issue you shouldn't have bought a defender - it ain't a Ferrari!

    The other benefits of skinnier tyres is reduced fuel consumption and less **** thrown up on the sides of your truck. Also if you are doing outback travel, 235/85 are available everywhere in remote locations. 35s are not available outside of large centres. At all.

    Save your bikkies and get a rear locker instead of bigger tyres and then laugh at your mates with 35s when you can go further than them. it's more fun to have ATs or HTs when you do this too to rub it in a bit further.

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