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    Hi Pod,

    I perhaps went off a bit about free access to the engine... was a bit tender at the time of writing... and essentially, I was more referring to the open (vertical pointing) pipe looking ominously skyward towards overcast skies. I was worried about water ingestion, needlessly as it turned out, rather than dust.

    Of course I am fully aware of the standard air filter, and I know that it is all that is necessary for most situations with regular appropriate maintenance. However, I grew up in western Qld and have done many many trips in dry dusty areas, having been through several intense dust storms, heavily overgrown narrow property tracks, but more often the long stretches of unsealed dusty tracks. In still air the dust can simply hang there, and I fully appreciate any additional benefits provided by a pre-cleaner of some sort.

    You don't have to sit up someones bum to cop a lung full of dust. On the way back to Braidwood the other day, there was no hint of any breeze. The tight trails through the hills seemed to have the dust hanging completely still like a thick fog. We actually sat on the road for almost ten minutes at one point and there was no improvement. This is quite a common phenomenon. We had to get moving at some point. This type of dust is talcum powder fine, and gets through every "seal" in the defender to coat the occupants

    I am still at a loss as to how the Syklone came loose (if that's indeed what happened). It was carefully installed and tightened appropriately with a very secure (supplied) clamp. As I said previously, I'll take the blame and say I should have checked everything more thoroughly prior to the trip.

    Maybe at tax time I'll feel sufficiently flush to buy another one and try again, but maybe I'll look into some additional retention system just in case... or I'll just stick to the safari head for the near future.

    All in all, I thought the Syklone was a worthwhile investment and a great design.

    Cheers,
    Nige

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    Oiled foam pre cleaner for the Safari head instead? Oiled foam is in a class of one for seriously dusty conditions - they don't run them on dirt bikes/rallye cars for fun - I've personally scraped an inch of solid dust off an oiled filter (dozens of times) and found the airbox spotless behind.

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    Some questions being asked about their suitablilty on newer engines I believe particularly if any excess oil is inadvertently sucked in and affects the air sensor.

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    I have a Syklone on mine, and judging by the deep scratches on it and and the snorkel after the Anne Beadell, it is held on very tightly by the clamp.

    I have a couple of cable ties as "safety tie" so that if it does get knocked off, there is a chance it will just bounce against the drivers window for a while.

    Performance wise i think it works great, had next top no dust in the air filter after 10,000km of dirt road travel, super clean when compared to amount if dust I used to get with the normal Mantec snorkel head.

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    FWIW Donaldson have their Top Spin pre-cleaner too, it works like the Sy-Klone rather than the traditional Donaldson clear bowl pre-cleaner and is more efficient too.

    I'll just be running a foam pre cleaner on the snorkel head.

    Cheaper initially but more work (maintenance) in use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noyakfat View Post
    Hi Pod,

    I perhaps went off a bit about free access to the engine... was a bit tender at the time of writing... and essentially, I was more referring to the open (vertical pointing) pipe looking ominously skyward towards overcast skies. I was worried about water ingestion, needlessly as it turned out, rather than dust.

    Of course I am fully aware of the standard air filter, and I know that it is all that is necessary for most situations with regular appropriate maintenance. However, I grew up in western Qld and have done many many trips in dry dusty areas, having been through several intense dust storms, heavily overgrown narrow property tracks, but more often the long stretches of unsealed dusty tracks. In still air the dust can simply hang there, and I fully appreciate any additional benefits provided by a pre-cleaner of some sort.

    You don't have to sit up someones bum to cop a lung full of dust. On the way back to Braidwood the other day, there was no hint of any breeze. The tight trails through the hills seemed to have the dust hanging completely still like a thick fog. We actually sat on the road for almost ten minutes at one point and there was no improvement. This is quite a common phenomenon. We had to get moving at some point. This type of dust is talcum powder fine, and gets through every "seal" in the defender to coat the occupants

    I am still at a loss as to how the Syklone came loose (if that's indeed what happened). It was carefully installed and tightened appropriately with a very secure (supplied) clamp. As I said previously, I'll take the blame and say I should have checked everything more thoroughly prior to the trip.

    Maybe at tax time I'll feel sufficiently flush to buy another one and try again, but maybe I'll look into some additional retention system just in case... or I'll just stick to the safari head for the near future.

    All in all, I thought the Syklone was a worthwhile investment and a great design.

    Cheers,
    Nige
    Yeah I guess I can understand the concern with that hanging dust, I've only experienced that on a very few occasions myself (the thought of dust is giving me itchy feet as the cold wet weather sets in down here...). No way would I travel in convoy close enough to enjoy the kind of view in Bushy's first photo, although yes there are times when you kind of get stuck in it such as waiting to pass a slower vehicle etc. I was really surprised by how little was collected in the bowl on the one big trip I have done with the precleaner. I've also seen farmers with tractors whose engines are worth many times the cost of my vehicle, who never bother to empty the bowl on the precleaner despite it being chockers after the first day of harvesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushie View Post
    I'm a bit of a fan of pre-cleaners especially for the long outback trips.
    I'd reckon plenty of dust sucked up under these sorts of conditions.





    Especially if you are a following vehicle.

    My last precleaner is somewhere on the side of the centreline track through woomera

    Any heads up on who supplies Sy-klones around Sydney ?


    Martyn
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    This is where I ordered mine from Sy-Klone - Air Pre- Cleaner Technologies
    I found them good to deal with over the phone,they will ask questions and make sure you get the correct unit for your vehicle,and I had it delivered to my door in Sydney in 3 days.I don't know of any distributor in Sydney.
    Wayne
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    The oiled foam pre cleaners are MAF friendly as long as they are that, pre cleaners where the paper stops any transfer of oil to the MAF sensor. It's been proved many times and extensively here through testing that they do not keep up with paper as a primary filtration source.

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