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    Motor change over

    Hi all, seeking some answers, as I'm sure this has been done before. I have a defender 110 ute that i bought as a parts only vehicle, and have found that I need a ute for business reasons, so I want to get it back on the road. It is a 1993 build, and has a 308 holden engine. I want to take it back to diesel and fit the 200TDI or 300tdi. The previous owner advised me that he had fitted a marks adaptor and a gearbox from a range rover. It still has the original radiator, and original chassis engine mounts. This vehicle from factory was a 200TDi, keeping in mind that i want to rego this vehicle in Victoria, should i fit a 200tdi or 300tdi, looking at eBAY, there are several discovery diesels available, will the 300tdi& gbox out of a disco fit in my 110???
    any comments/ assistance would be great.
    Thanks

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    Hi , if I was going down this path , I would go for the 300tdi It was an improvement on the 200 , there is no difference between disco and land rover engines . What ever you choose they will drop in . You will need to look at exhaust , hoses , fuel line , throttle , and air cleaner , so if It's coming off a disco grab them bit's as well . good luck . Jim ..

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    Sorry re read your post the disco gearbox should be an R380 , and will fit , not sure about gear lever , I think It's shorter , the disco transfer box has different gearing , as It's set up for smaller wheels , It will work but the speedo will be out

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    200 & 300 have different engine mount positions so you will have to adapt for what ever you end up with, presume the original mounts have been moved/modified for the 308 anyway. The r380 out of a disco will have the gear lever basically in the center seat but im sure you can modify the shape of the lever[mate did with his county to 300tdi]to work.
    Personally i prefer the 300 but if the original mounts were still in place a 200 would drop back in and be easy.
    If you go the 300 you can purchase an engine mount kit that comes with the template so every thing is in the right place first time-try ebay.uk.
    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrovertdi View Post
    200 & 300 have different engine mount positions so you will have to adapt for what ever you end up with, presume the original mounts have been moved/modified for the 308 anyway. The r380 out of a disco will have the gear lever basically in the center seat but im sure you can modify the shape of the lever[mate did with his county to 300tdi]to work.
    Personally i prefer the 300 but if the original mounts were still in place a 200 would drop back in and be easy.
    If you go the 300 you can purchase an engine mount kit that comes with the template so every thing is in the right place first time-try ebay.uk.
    Richard
    Everything redrover says AND if you get a 300tdi auto D1 donor vehicle you could have the benefits of the ZF auto transmission - then you'd have a very useful vehicle.

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    With the manual g/box disco gear lever is at the rear not the front like the defender and it wont fit without a bit of chopping of the seat box and that could affect rego. as for the taller gearing in the standard disco t/c ratios it wont make any difference to the already useless defender speedo as it is driven from the final output gear ( tailshaft speed )

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    If its still got the original mounts in it, then it would be easier to fit a 200tdi back in, as it would be original fitment and you'd have no engineering considerations.

    What is the rest of the vehicle like? I'm guessing if it was bought as a parts car then possibly not too flash. Being for work, would you not be better to flog what you've got and pick up a solid 300tdi 110/130 ute and save a heap of hassle?

    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    What's wrong with a 308?....."There's nothing like a V8"!
    Pickles.

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    You'll likely not find a defender 200Tdi. This leaves the 300Tdi or a Perenties isuzu as the remaining options.

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    Thanks for all the replies & info, can anyone advise if there will be issues with RWC in Vic by fitting a 300tdi? I also have a 4BD1 perentie, but will leave that as playtoy, couldn't bring myself to pulling apart. Looked at the rest of 110 ute today, no rust in chassis, some bits of rust on firewall- bonnet hinge area (easy fix), main issue is motor swap, was thinking of a 200tdi & bellhousing swap back to original, and getting 200tdi rebuilt??? any suggestions on mods to do while rebuilding, so that I can keep original chassis mounts???
    Thanks for all input

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