Reply With QuoteGiven something like 90% of 4x4s never leave the tarmac you could argue that 4x4 and low range are largely marketing - let alone lockers!Originally Posted by voltron
Master
SubscriberYeah I guess the point of the question was to find out to what degree you would need lockers as I suggested that I myself may not be adventurous enough yet to have not needed them.
My friend just bought an Amarok and it came with front and rear lockers, he had a little chuckle that I had none and he doesnt even use his car to the point where he would ever engage the lockers.
Are they a marketing angle for alot of newer model 4wd's?
Swaggie
Given something like 90% of 4x4s never leave the tarmac you could argue that 4x4 and low range are largely marketing - let alone lockers!
Master
SubscriberTru Dat.
Another guy was telling me he would invest in better suspension setup before lockers, again I dont know how valid that is.
I have a winch and am happy with that.
Swaggie
IMHO it really depends on what you want to do with the vehicle.Tru Dat.
Another guy was telling me he would invest in better suspension setup before lockers, again I dont know how valid that is.
I have a winch and am happy with that.
For a touring vehicle where you will be doing a lot of solo travel:
1. Winch
2. Lockers
3. Leave suspension standard unless upgraded springs/shocks are needed.
play vehicle:
1. Suspension (more travel)
2. Lockers
3. Winch
Wizard
SubscriberI've got a Detroit in the back and an Ashcroft LSD in the front and I highly recommend them. It's not about bragging and not about saying my vehicle can go here or there while yours can't. For me it's about getting to remote destinations and back solely relying on your vehicle. The easier you can be on your vehicle and the less you have to bounce wheels or take multiple attempts at climbs the better it is on the vehicle. Sure if you're just doing the odd weekend trip with the boys it's not really required. If you're 1000kms from help and you face a climb loaded with camping gear you begin to appreciate lockers.
Black Defender with lockers Vs Defender with traction control. You can't tell me lockers aren't easier on the vehicle.
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TopicToaster
And what happens if you have no traction aids? Yeah, yeah, you take another line or you use momentum etc,
Each to their own, if you're happy with your vehicle and don't feel the need then don't worry about advertising or the Joneses. I changed away from OEM when I had to replace my rear drive members/axles and flanges when they develed slop and a slight twist in the splines. Rear locker was next and I have used it when touring and when just playing around, front locker came when the LR centre developed slop and the cost to replace was going to be on a par with a locking centre.
As Ben pointed out, two wheel drive is good enough for 90% of the time. Why do we have 4wds, because we want to, I have lockers for the same reason.
And yes you are not adventurous enough, but then again who is the arbiter of what is adventurous and what is not?
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Maybe we're expecting too much out of what really is a smallish motor allready pushing 2 tonnes. Just because it's a v8 doesn't mean it's powerfull.
One answer REV IT BABY REV IT!!!
Swaggie
Oh to answer your question, my defer come with twin lockers.......
to show mate up I drove a hill a second time without front locker and destroyed a CV.....I'm assuming due to wheel spin.
Master
SupporterI have got front and rear lockers (Chockers) in my Puma 90... the first thing I got was a winch bar and winch though. I don't mind at all if someone doesn't have accessories on their truck - I love being able to help someone else though and if the winch and lockers make that happen I am very pleased I made the investment (as are they).
Fossicker
SupporterApologies if this might be a bit of a thread derailment. Coming from a VW type background, the pinnacle of diffs for VWs is a Quaife item from England. Looking at their catalog they look to cater to the Land Rover family as well. Does anyone use their diffs here in Australia? They look to be quite expensive and let's not talk about their sequential gear boxes, Land /Range Rover 6-Speed Sequential Gearbox.
Cheers,
Ivars
TopicToaster
Quaife stuff is something people have pointed out in the past, not many on here have their stuff. There are plenty of other sources of diff lockers and centre diff auto torque bias centres, Ashcroft is one from OS, ARB is local and popular, We also have the maxi drive lockers, Jacmac if you can put up with some average customer service (should that be insults?), a few others from the states at pretty good prices.Apologies if this might be a bit of a thread derailment. Coming from a VW type background, the pinnacle of diffs for VWs is a Quaife item from England. Looking at their catalog they look to cater to the Land Rover family as well. Does anyone use their diffs here in Australia? They look to be quite expensive and let's not talk about their sequential gear boxes, Land /Range Rover 6-Speed Sequential Gearbox
Cheers,
Ivars
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Maybe we're expecting too much out of what really is a smallish motor allready pushing 2 tonnes. Just because it's a v8 doesn't mean it's powerfull.
One answer REV IT BABY REV IT!!!
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