Thread: TD5 to Puma - What's New

Someone on the forum ordered a Puma 2.2 and had diff locks dealer fitted. Not the cheapest, but it is covered by warranty.
I will have to drive one this week.

Jeff

I'm in thinking mode ...... So drove a pre-loved 2010 90 with 50,000kms on it .
Was fine , bit noisey and went well , city/suburban speeds .
The comment was passed that 'it's better than I expected'

Then I drove a 2014 110 with 200 kms on it - what difference !
Quieter , smoother - like a new car .... Nah only kidding : )
So , the problem is can I wait till April for a new build ?

At this point I'm still deciding then negotiating I guess - I know what I want , colour and option and truthfully it will prob be the last new car I buy .

So brains trust , which one 90 or 110 ?
No kids , have dogs , have small caravan ( 1960's model) and a camper will be going touring , any suggestions gratefully received

Originally Posted by stewie110

Hi All,
seemed significantly quieter when compared to the Td5.. is that for real as I didn't get up to motorway speeds.

What would the baseline modifications be for the new Puma to be considered "safe" offroad?.. I have heard that putting an in-line fuel filter in is critical because the engines are much more susceptible to water damage?

Is the standard alternator good enough to drive some good lights on the Puma?
Have I missed anything?

My guess is that putting lockers in would break the warranty? does it break the entire warranty or just the diffs/drive line? I have never bought a car that is new so it is all a green fields.. any advice would be really appreciated.

I took an 05 defender for a drive before I bought my 12 puma new, and I recon it was definitely quieter. I recon it's the vents at the front being sealed that does it.

Min to be safe "Offroad"? That's a pretty open question, Like any defender it's pretty good stock. I put a snorkel on mine as I used to encounter a bit of water and a bull bar because I was in Roo territory a lot. First 3 months I hit 9. Had no problem on Fraser the couple of times I took it stock, and it was soft sand at the time. Went over both back routes around Nygla rocks. The guy in the V8 land cruiser with lockers, that was ahead of me was pretty impressed, enough to grunt approval anyway. The TC in the Puma is much better than the TC that was in my 99 D2, and way above the TC in the ford ranger. Which you have to turn off in sand.

Don't know about the filter but I have got fuel from a lot of small places in north western NSW and not had any problems.

I've got 2 x 7" light force 55w HID's, with these on, high beam, radio, AC and the fan on high, the voltage from the alternator does not shift from the 14.6 shown on the Ultragauge. We did a rough test one night onsite (cause there was NOTHING else to do) and over and above, the above, I recon there is at least 15 amps.

Lockers will only break the drive train warranty ( I checked), I've put an Ashcroft ATB in the rear and will do the front when the piggy bank gets a bit more in it.

If I were you I would take any extras that would fit the Puma off the TD5, you get nothing for them when you sell the vehicle and they are pretty pricey to re-kit.

Cheers Glen

Originally Posted by Rextheute

I'm in thinking mode ...... So drove a pre-loved 2010 90 with 50,000kms on it .
Was fine , bit noisey and went well , city/suburban speeds .
The comment was passed that 'it's better than I expected'

Then I drove a 2014 110 with 200 kms on it - what difference !
Quieter , smoother - like a new car .... Nah only kidding : )
So , the problem is can I wait till April for a new build ?

At this point I'm still deciding then negotiating I guess - I know what I want , colour and option and truthfully it will prob be the last new car I buy .

So brains trust , which one 90 or 110 ?
No kids , have dogs , have small caravan ( 1960's model) and a camper will be going touring , any suggestions gratefully received

For me it really has to be a 110. We had a 90 previously and loved it. However with longer touring trips the extra space keeps things down low and easily accessible... oh and I have kids..

Where I tend to go offroad driving frequently it is rocky with a clay base. On the TD5 the traction control is not enough if it's even mildly showered. I do not know what the TC is like on the Puma, but from what you say it sounds like it maybe good enough.

The context of "safe offroad" is:
We regularly go to a property near Bulahdelah which is only accessible via a steep old logging trail up onto a ridge line. It is a clay base with large loose rocks and swales/erosion. Past experience in the wet has shown me that lockers make it much safer. Low range 1st or 2nd and trundle up no problems with just the rear locker. If I rely purely on TC in that same situation it will tend to lose traction and require an emergency decent back down the hill to start again.

Ive been through a td5 a 2.4 and now a 2.2. For me there was little difference in noise td5 to 2.4. I disliked the sound of the 2.4. But the post 2012 2.2 is miles better noise and vibration than any prevous defender I have had.

Post 2012 I believe also has a different etc traction tune so behaves a little better than the older models. Still once you have driven with multiple difflocks I think it would hard to just trust etc.