But we are not talking comp trucks - but general use 4wds that get up to some fun on the weekends and then have to drive to work on Monday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc130
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But we are not talking comp trucks - but general use 4wds that get up to some fun on the weekends and then have to drive to work on Monday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc130
Actually you do - Mog Rover was one :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc130
A common reason for lockers over TC in comp trucks is people know how to bolt in lockers - few people can build TC in the shed :)
Traction control doesn't lock the diff 100%, a difflock does
Hmm I don't think anyone has said TC locks the diff 100% - in fact TC does not lock the diff at all - it applies brakes on individual wheels and relies on an open diff to do what it does - transfer drive to the axle with least resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc130
Exactly, that's why tc will not take u as far as a proper difflock. Applying brakes when forward motion is required, come on. I drive my defender as a daily driver and could guarantee when it comes to tough off-roading a difflock will get u further every day of the week, we've been there,tested it and that's why my mates 2014 wagon now has a maxidrive fitted to it, u guys obviously aren't doing serious offroad work
Well you are wrong. The Lockless Monster built by Haultech ran TC and LSD diffs. Not only did it enter competitions it won them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc130
Haultech Lockless Monster | TTC2005 | Tuff Truck Challenge
Lol. So when did you last compete in tough truck???Quote:
, u guys obviously aren't doing serious offroad work
Edit: Pretty sure this one had TC + LSDs as well...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...014/12/870.jpg
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attac...p28_1_0401.jpg
I don't do comps so I don't see much advantage in a normal difflock over TC for my needs, but I can see how a rear Truetrac could be useful to stop wheelspin without using the brakes in slippery conditions when towing our camper trailer.
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Back to my earlier post in this thread...
I've got a full locker fitted to my 90's rear diff, not because I wanted a locker but because I needed a new diff and ARB's installed price was less than I could buy an OEM one and have an indie install it... - sounds crazy, but those are the facts.
Back to my point... I've now got a 4 pin full diff lock fitted and I've never needed to use it. The Puma's TC remains so good that I've never even got close to needing to engage the locker.
So, IMO there is no real need to install a full locker in a Puma. But seeing as I needed to fit a new diff, I would certainly have fitted an Ashcroft ATB as first choice, that is if I could find someone willing to install it at a reasonable price and offer some sort of warranty on their workmanship.
Having said that, I'm very happy with the install of the 4 pin ARB and any hint of backlash has gone as well. The 5 year warranty is also a decent bit of security.
Cheers,
Lou
[QUOTE=, I would certainly have fitted an Ashcroft ATB as first choice, that is if I could find someone willing to install it at a reasonable price and offer some sort of warranty on their
Cheers,
Lou[/QUOTE]
Could you expand on this, no one in W.A or Oz supporting Ashcroft? Looking at that brand myself.
What is the common definition of off road, I take it to mean cross country or 4wd circuit, not fire trails or tracks, which to me are roads? Genuine question.
As I recall Lockless finished nowhere near the pointy end though (at tufftruck). I guess even being competitive down there is no mean feat. That was the year Sam drove the Mogrover to 2nd with Mick as navvy. Sam probably would have used the TC, but in the following 2 years when Mick had the Mog, to 2nd and 6th as I recall the TC was never used and I don't even think he unlocked the diffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by isuzurover
The TC they used was nowhere near as developed as a factory system and the more they tried to get it as good as a locker the more diffs and CVs they broke. I seem to remember a lot of dead trutracks as well.
Chuck still has TC in the front of his bobtail Rangie though.