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    The electrics that under the drivers seat are very vulnerable. Best moved to under cubby box with a Mulgo X Box.
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    Has anyone come up with a rubber seal or something that could waterproof the accelerator sensors? Can they be moved at all?

    Obviously if you're aware of the two electrical hotspots in the cabin, the floor can be carefully hosed out.

    Has anyone posted a diagram/description of all Puma Ecu / electrics susceptible to water during deep water crossing?

    Sounds like Nugget is working on an improved sealed air filter box to go with snorkel kit. What else can we do to relocate/protect vulnerable points?

    Planning a trip to Cape york soon, would be great to prep for the wet! Any advice appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlschmid2002 View Post
    The electrics that under the drivers seat are very vulnerable. Best moved to under cubby box with a Mulgo X Box.
    Must say, never understood this train of thought as the height of the seat base is well over a meter above ground level! That would be some seriously deep water that would also having your ankles immersed! At that stage, water in the under electrics would be the least of my worries! ...

    ... unless you are then converting and using the under-seat area as a dunny!

  4. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLO110 View Post
    Must say, never understood this train of thought as the height of the seat base is well over a meter above ground level! That would be some seriously deep water that would also having your ankles immersed! At that stage, water in the under electrics would be the least of my worries! ...

    ... unless you are then converting and using the under-seat area as a dunny!
    Been through plenty of over bonnet creek crossings in northern australia out of necessity in my 300tdi. Puma and water is a whole different scenario. I may yet decide to take old faithful 300tdi to the Cape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Been through plenty of over bonnet creek crossings in northern australia out of necessity in my 300tdi. Puma and water is a whole different scenario. I may yet decide to take old faithful 300tdi to the Cape.
    Be more worried about the immobilizer turning to custard somewhere remote. Have a plan for any trip where a taxi home and flattop to workshop is a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tact View Post
    Be more worried about the immobilizer turning to custard somewhere remote. Have a plan for any trip where a taxi home and flattop to workshop is a problem.
    Good point Tact, how have you solved this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLO110 View Post
    Must say, never understood this train of thought as the height of the seat base is well over a meter above ground level! That would be some seriously deep water that would also having your ankles immersed! At that stage, water in the under electrics would be the least of my worries! ...

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    This is one of many over the bonnet crossings we faced up at the Cape. After this, we drove the 3,500km home - that brought the vehicle's total just past 450,000km - took the gear out and I drove it to work the next day.

    The thought of taking a vehicle with so many sensors and ecus up to the Cape would put me off entirely. Limping home the ~1000km from this crossing to the nearest dealer in Cairns would be a terrible experience. I personally am very reluctant to buy any overlanding vehicle with more electronics than the old faithful 300tdi, and I'm an electrical engineer.

    Unfortunately that is why the new Defender doesn't interest me at all. At best, it's only fault will be a tiny, overstressed turbo-diesel covered in sensors and ECUs thanks to European emissions laws; but that alone is enough to put me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLO110 View Post
    Must say, never understood this train of thought as the height of the seat base is well over a meter above ground level! That would be some seriously deep water that would also having your ankles immersed! At that stage, water in the under electrics would be the least of my worries! ...

    ... unless you are then converting and using the under-seat area as a dunny!
    I'm happy I don't have any electronics to worry about with the Isuzu

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    Thanks guys, impressive pics! What time of year were these taken?

    Obviously an option for puma drivers is to turn back if confronted with deep water...

    Perhaps it's time we contact Isuzu about a growing market for a new 3.9 what are the retro-fitting laws? Clearly there will be a future time when the most durable repairable (dinosaur to some) Defender chassis/bodies will need heart transplants...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Thanks guys, impressive pics! What time of year were these taken?

    Obviously an option for puma drivers is to turn back if confronted with deep water...
    That one was taken mid-November, when it starts to get quiet.

    If you were turning around at crossings you wouldn't get far on the Old Tele Track at all, and the Peninsula Development Road (the alternative) is a very poor substitute.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Perhaps it's time we contact Isuzu about a growing market for a new 3.9 what are the retro-fitting laws? Clearly there will be a future time when the most durable repairable (dinosaur to some) Defender chassis/bodies will need heart transplants...
    Legality is easy, buy a Perentie wreck (engine and chassis) and put your body on it - that's what I did.


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