Thread: Some suppliers, don't bother

To be fair though - I must say PWR and Allisport make quality gear...

Originally Posted by nedflanders

It does seem strange that the argument about 'manufacturers spend millions developing a car, you don't need a bigger radiator/brakes/suspension' etc etc.
A vehicle is developed to do the intended job but at a set price, everyone knows better materials, workmanship is available but who wants to spend double the cost.
If you believe manufacturers have developed a vehicle that is perfect for a reasonable cost please let me know and I'll buy one :)

V8 VR Commodore... The pinnacle of automotive engineering at a bargain price...

Originally Posted by bacicat

V8 VR Commodore... The panicle of automotive engineering at a bargain price...

Might be a panicle.... Definitely not the pinnacle though.....

panicle - definition of panicle by The Free Dictionary

My idea of good automotive engineering for a reasonable price is the likes of;

Early model Volkswagens,
Standard Vanguards (so much better than anything else around at the time),
Some models of Hillman/rootes group vehicles,
2CV **** and groans (Citroens),
And Triumph 2,3,&3a's (so much better and more advanced than the MG competition at the time),
And BMW R65's.... Maybe not reasonably priced at the time when they where new, but now......

Mike.

Originally Posted by 90@

Might be a panicle.... Definitely not the pinnacle though.....

panicle - definition of panicle by The Free Dictionary

My idea of good engineering for a reasonable price is the like of;

Early model Volkswagens,
Standard Vanguards (so much better than anything else around at the time),
Some models of Hillman/rootes group vehicles,
2CV **** and groans (Citroens),
And Triumph 2,3,&3a's (so much better and more advanced than the MG competition at the time),
And BMW R65's.... Maybe not reasonably priced at the time when they where new, but now......

Mike.

. Bloody auto correct...

I've heard that the Bugatti Veyron has not reached their break even point - their R&D and manufacturing costs have not been exceeded by their sales.

Even though it's millions compared to hundreds, that vehicle is the epitome of a 'no holds barred' design for a performance vehicle. No costs were spared for the end outcome. But it's still ugly as sin.

Originally Posted by bacicat

V8 VR Commodore... The pinnacle of automotive engineering at a bargain price...

Absolutely!
I know where there is a really nice one the owner wants to sell.
I'm thinking about it.
A great vehicle for a few thousand dollars.

There's a balance point with flow across the cooler, more resistance means that the air stays longer and can absorb more heat but of course needs to be balanced with actually removing the heat. Plus there's the A/c condenser in front and the oil coolers which do a good job slowing down flow as it is.