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Thread: 2006 Defender 110 TD5 - Seeking advice from the experts!

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    I have never had the inclination to look at any LR with electronics but I strongly suspect they have a pan hard rod .Be very unusual for anything apart from the front axle assembly to cause a wheel wobble and I would have another look at the swivel preload minus the seals and run a tape over the wheels check for towout .Also with the engine running have a good look under with some one cycling the steering

    AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by numpty View Post
    2006 Td5 doesn't have a panhard rod.
    Well that would explain the wobble

    Of course it does holds the front axle in alignment....

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    My suggestion is to take it to someone that knows Land Rovers for a diagnostic, the below list is very broad in its description.

    Vibration on a TD5 (harmonic type, hard to explain but any Land Rover repairer will get what I mean and the below are common). Also keep in mind, one persons experience with an issue like a vibration and their resolution does NOT equal anothers. So many issues such as this on a TD5 can be the cause of unrelated components.

    Minor vibration.
    *Engine mounts - only use/replace with genuine (as mentioned 20mm "air gap" between engine support and donut).
    *Exhaust figure 8 rubber mounts (even if they look n feel fine)
    *Exhaust manifold leak (broken studs, warping).
    *Harmonic balancer (they dont always squeak on turn off or rattle).
    *Exhaust hitting transfer case mount heat shield.
    *Exhaust alligator section (vibrates between inner and outer section).

    Excessive vibration (again, explain that).
    *Front prop shaft (a rebuilt unit that has not had the double joint replaced is pointless)
    *The solid flywheel replacement (I've yet to see any good long lasting examples when used, from my own experience they add minor to excessive vibration)
    *Flogged out gearbox bearings due to the above fitted).

    Hope some of that is useful, as mentioned, you would find if its any of the above a Land Rover repairer should pick it up.

    Regards
    Daz

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    Also what about the rubber gearbox mount??

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    You're describing vibration/oscillation that is affecting the steering wheels, right?

    To the point where you can't drive at road speed with sufficient control, right?

    And you're certain it's not coming from the wheels, right?

    Then it's either in:

    1. the steering system (TREs, etc);
    2. the dampening of the steering system (swivels (primary damping) or the steering dampener (secondary)); or
    3. the system locating the steering axle to the chassis (the

    Or a combination of all these things.

    I'd be replacing your panhard bushes (and mounting hardware) and rechecking your swivels.

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    Apologies.

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    Hey mate

    Interested to hear what the verdict was with this?

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    Panhard rod bushes. Been there done that. Only took me 8mths to track mine down........ but the rest of the front end is now replaced! Last thing it could be would be those itzy bitzy unassuming cylindrical bits of rubber wouldnt it?
    Cheers Scott

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    I'm 99% certain I've sorted it... Eventually.

    Turns out I've had a few little problems that have all compounded together to make one problem!

    After confirming all the bushes, springs, dampers and ball joints were OK I did the following:

    1. Rebuilt the front axle (wheel bearings & swivels)
    2. Replaced steering box

    The rebuild of the axle made no difference (everything was as it should be when I inspected after dismantling) but it did confirm that it was all OK and eliminated this from my mind.

    The steering box had a little play in it but nothing that was significant and it wasn't leaking oil. In retrospect I didn't need to change it.

    Noting that Id already tried (borrowed from a mate) a different set of wheels and tyres a year or so ago (which made no difference at the time), in desperation I put the front tyres on the back and the back on the front... This transformed the car and the violent shake has almost gone.

    I'm waiting for the new BFG AT KO2 tyres to become available and then I'll put a set of new rubber on and then hopefully the problem will be solved... Even if it doesn't solve the problem, Im way overdue for a new set of tyres anyway.
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    Jon

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    I would have balanced the prop shafts. a I had an issue with vibrations put it up on a ramp and could find no probems by pushing and pulling on the yolks, but there was still a stuuffed uni that I could not pick up on the vehicle. I had a new set of tyres fitted (Goodyear Kevlar type) and they said when fitted that the rim on one of them was out of balance. I had the tyre taken off and the rim was ok, it was a defective tyre and unbalanced.
    Lindsay

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