Thread: The philosophical 2018 Land Rover Series VI / Defender / 'Icon'...

Originally Posted by gusthedog

And we're back to Stockholm syndrome

Sorry couldn't resist

Did we become captivated by our Defenders before or after we bought them?

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Did we become captivated by our Defenders before or after we bought them?

Case by case there may be differences. Some may have realised early on but others would be unaware. But after you spent that much on a leaky, dusty car with bad air-conditioning, you soon become captured . It's that first morning after a heavy rain and you find the passenger footwell full of water that it starts to sink in. But then you've spent so much money getting the car and apart from "insert problem here" it's a really great 4wd. Then before you know it, your subconscious forces you to love the car. Because if you sat back and actually thought objectively for a moment and realised that you'd spent all that hard earned on a loud, uncomfortable car that some psychotic designer into S&M designed the handbrake location for, you'd probably have an episode....



Pricey

Originally Posted by PAT303

Absolutely,if you stay on top of maintenance and servicing vehicles of all makes are easy to keep going,it's once they become the second car that they go down hill quickly. Pat

You've said that you've got "a pair of defenders" which begs the question: which one of them is "the second car"?

Originally Posted by RVR110

You've said that you've got "a pair of defenders" which begs the question: which one of them is "the second car"?

The alternative to the first

Originally Posted by gusthedog

Case by case there may be differences. Some may have realised early on but others would be unaware. But after you spent that much on a leaky, dusty car with bad air-conditioning, you soon become captured . It's that first morning after a heavy rain and you find the passenger footwell full of water that it starts to sink in. But then you've spent so much money getting the car and apart from "insert problem here" it's a really great 4wd. Then before you know it, your subconscious forces you to love the car. Because if you sat back and actually thought objectively for a moment and realised that you'd spent all that hard earned on a loud, uncomfortable car that some psychotic designer into S&M designed the handbrake location for, you'd probably have an episode....

Pricey

None of which has anything whatsoever to do with Stockholm Syndrome, which is a horrific state of being experienced by people who are kidnapped.

The S&M reference to the location of a hand brake lever is equally inappropriate.

There is no place for any of the above in a thread about the philosophy of Land Rover ownership IMO.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Same here. No question. And for me it's not just about the mechanicals. I also really like the character and unique cultural aspects of Defender ownership. There is another dimension that few on this site touch on. It is an indescribable source of happiness, a difficult to pin down sense of being at one with a vehicle, it's the the source of the Defender wave and the intangible feeling we all know. But only if you drive a Defender.

DEFENDER WAVE???????
Obviously you havent been a Land Rover owner for very long.
Andrew

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

DEFENDER WAVE???????
Obviously you havent been a Land Rover owner for very long.
Andrew

It's never been a general Land Rover wave Andy. Although I do wave to Disco drivers if they wave first (which is virtually never).

You may have noticed this thread with a lazy 81K posts: Where's the Defender wave gone?

Originally Posted by MrLandy

It's never been a Land Rover wave Andy. Although I do wave to Disco drivers if they wave first (which is virtually never).

You may have noticed this thread with a lazy 81K posts: Where's the Defender wave gone?

It was a Land Rover wave long before bloody Pumas (or Defenders) existed.

And Range Rovers in the early days exchanged headlight flashes (some still do), as they were one of the first things to get the dip switch on the stalk, not the floor.