Thread: Anyone fitted a catch-can to a puma?

Have people who have installed a can plumbed the oil outflow back to the sump or are you simply collecting?

Following an EGR delete I am planning on cleaning the induction side of my 2.4, replacing the IC hoses and was planning on installing a can. Just deciding what to do with the oil that is collected????

S

There are different sorts of cans available with some being plumbed back into the motor, and some not.
The unit I bought has a sight tube on the side so you can see how full, or how much is in the can and then empty it via a drain pipe. Doing this though, you would need to make sure your up to date and do oil checks regularly. Cant tell you how much blow by you get though. Whenever I do an oil change, I pull the sensors out and clean them too, and generally try and clean up any oil laying about within pipes.
I guess though, if you really wanted, all you need to do is find somewhere you can use as in inlet, and plumb it straight back in to the motor,,, big truck units do this.
The only thing to be aware of is motor pressure, which is what happened to mine when one of the hoses collapsed under heat, causing it to spew oil everywhere. A lucky escape on that one, hence why I'm going to get the Provent unit shortly.

Originally Posted by Chops

There are different sorts of cans available with some being plumbed back into the motor, and some not.
The unit I bought has a sight tube on the side so you can see how full, or how much is in the can and then empty it via a drain pipe. Doing this though, you would need to make sure your up to date and do oil checks regularly. Cant tell you how much blow by you get though. Whenever I do an oil change, I pull the sensors out and clean them too, and generally try and clean up any oil laying about within pipes.
I guess though, if you really wanted, all you need to do is find somewhere you can use as in inlet, and plumb it straight back in to the motor,,, big truck units do this.
The only thing to be aware of is motor pressure, which is what happened to mine when one of the hoses collapsed under heat, causing it to spew oil everywhere. A lucky escape on that one, hence why I'm going to get the Provent unit shortly.

I read about your catch can hose failure. Looked gnarly.

As for the catch can filling up, if the engine is running right, then filling up should be no more than a normal oil change interval. I've heard figures of 30ml for 3000miles... your results may vary, but excess oil could be a sign of bigger issues.

As for the last comment, 'plumbing it straight back into the motor', It would need to go to the sump. Would defeat the purpose of the unit if it were to go back into the intake!
I'm not 100% sure where one would be able to find a drain point, but gut feel would be turbo oil drain hose. I might need to suss out the microcat / FSM to see... it's dark and cold out and I'm comfortable

Mitch,

Ive just pulled the trigger on a Provent 100
It is rated at 100KW or 100L/min blow by

My 2.4 is less than 100KW and although I dont have numbers for the tdci
I have found a 4BT (3.9L) when new at 2800RPM flows ~60L/min
I can only imagine that a near new 2.4 will be fine with the Provent 100.

I just think it will be easier to fit for two reasons size and being able to rotate the inlet 180 degrees to the outlet.

My old donger 300tdi had a Provent200 that was simply supported by the pipework for 100,000km so Im hoping the smaller Provent100 might happily sit in the PCV line with little to no support.

Once vent arrives Ill clean out intercooler, change the IC hoses to the silicone I got from BAS and likely block off the EGR mechanically (to compliment ECU blocking)
Will report back.

Steve

Has anyone heard any more from Asgard in relation to their development work? I'm interested in installing a Provent 200 (BAS Intercooler and ECU planned in the future), and I want a properly designed solution.

also following for the same reasons, just ordered BAS and intercooler

Just some extra info for anyone interested.
I have just spoken direct to Mann+Hummel rep trying to find a distributer fro a Provent 200 in Alice.
Interesting, first he reckons the Provent 100 would be fine for my TD5 and the 2.2 or 2.4.
Second, Don Kyatt (parts retailer for the primary Japanes fourby ) have a Provent 100 rebadged as their own brand. It is a genuin Mann+Hummell Provent 100 in everyway and apparently the only unit supplied for a much bigger LC donk.

If you can't find them locally Strangy go to Western Filters web site.