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    Did you change the front prop shaft as well?
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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    Probably won't need to.At that height it's probably about 35mm over stock.Only when you go 50mm+ is when you're looking at DC shafts.My 90's pretty well set up the same as witchdoctor and I've just fitted Lovells raised height all round with Bilsteins.The front lifted about 30mm and back about 50mm from stock.Ride is probably softer than stock but more controlled.Very happy with it.No side effects at all and we'll see how they bed in over time.

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    Gents,

    I am looking to lift my MY14 90 about 35 to 40mm. But I want to keep the same spring rate. I feel that the STD spring rate is really good.

    I don't know, as I haven't actually measured it yet, but I think the weight of my ARB roo bar has dropped the front a little more than I would like. Plus my belly tanks could do with some extra clearance. The extra fuel capasity is well worth it gents. 1200Km range.

    Getting back on topic.....

    My questions are......

    Who makes good springs these days?
    What do you guys recommend as good spring/shock combinations?
    What are the approximate costs for upgrading?


    Cheers,

    Phill.

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    An update.

    The changes work very well as i have said earlier BUT i pull a work trailer every day (Carpenter).
    After hitching the trailer this morning the trailer changed a few things, the rear dropped from 525 to 515 & the front went up from 540 to 548.

    The extra gain in the front was enough to introduce the dreaded front haft vibration between 60 & 80K's.

    So back to the drawing board this Saturday at the coil works.
    I will post the changers later

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    David

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    Sounds like you should test it fully loaded for a trip, and it highlights how sensitive it is to small changes
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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    Righto,

    After the second visit to the coil shop the set up is like this.
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    1 Front coil difference
    2 Front set up
    3 Rear set up

    Front:
    King Springs Range Rover raised coils with OzTec Defender Shocks
    Hight was 540mm now 530. Stock 490mm
    The new coils are a little softer but better reactor to short hard bumps. A much nicer ride in my view

    Rear:
    King Springs Discovery raised coils with OzTec Defender shocks
    Hight was 525mm now 532. Stock 485mm
    These coils are taller & a little stiffer for when the work trailer is on. Then when the camping gear is loaded in we get the same affect, a nicer more controlled ride

    Just some other info whilst i was in the shop we put the truck on the 4 wheel scales after fitting the new suspension.

    Total weight of truck 2144Kg Max
    Factory 1815Kg
    Front axle 1062Kg
    Rear Axle 1082Kg

    All 4 corners were within 5Kg's of each other.

    So its very nicely balanced & a much better ride I'm thinking

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchdoctor View Post
    Righto,
    Just some other info whilst i was in the shop we put the truck on the 4 wheel scales after fitting the new suspension.

    Total weight of truck 2144Kg Max
    Factory 1815Kg
    Front axle 1062Kg
    Rear Axle 1082Kg

    All 4 corners were within 5Kg's of each other.

    So its very nicely balanced & a much better ride I'm thinking

    Cheers
    This must in a large way explain why they handle so well. Isn't that sports car stuff having all the corners the same weight

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    I like your thinking debruiser,

    But my truck is not factory. I have a twin battery under the seat a 40Lt fridge in the rear on the same side as the extra battery & really nothing on the drivers side & for me this does not make sense to me, truck should be heaver on the passengers side.

    It just shows that because the weight is positioned in a particular location the weight distribution moves through the chassis.

    I will post the exact weights & location shortly

    Cheers

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    Some weights on my 90

    Front Left 535Kg Front Right 518Kg

    Rear Left 561Kg Rear Right 573Kg

    The numbers may not look close but as a whole they are.
    Looking at it there is more load in the rear by the numbers but the draws are all alloy with a fridge on the left is only 25Kg, does not look right as the bull bar & winch weigh 70Kg.

    It just goes to show that it is not always what it seems!

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchdoctor View Post
    Some weights on my 90

    Front Left 535Kg Front Right 518Kg

    Rear Left 561Kg Rear Right 573Kg

    The numbers may not look close but as a whole they are.
    Looking at it there is more load in the rear by the numbers but the draws are all alloy with a fridge on the left is only 25Kg, does not look right as the bull bar & winch weigh 70Kg.

    It just goes to show that it is not always what it seems!

    Cheers
    Remember that the engine starts a long way back (front of hte engine is behind the front axle) and then the gearbox/transfer is WAY back in the car. so would distribute significantly more weight to the rear axle compared to a 110.

    If you think in percentages then the difference left to right is only ~5% front to back is only ~7-10%. I'm no engineer but to me that is pretty close.

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