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    nylex lock nuts washers or not

    howdy all, ive got a problem with the nylex lock nuts coming lose on my rear drive shaft, after about 5000ks where it ajoins the transfer case output.
    does anyone use washers under the nuts? I do tow a camper a fair bit
    would steel nuts &lock washers be a better option? cheers all.

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    Are you using new nylock nuts every time?
    They should be one use only IMO
    They should also have washers under them I believe
    Maybe you should try normal ht bolts and nuts + locktite
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    nylex lock nuts

    thanks for the reply, yea I use new ones each time, these drive shafts were fitted in mt isa for me. I was to hot and to lazy to do it myself
    previous ones were ht steel with lock nuts ANDwashers, but washers were not fitted with the nylex, so I just followed in suit thinking they weren't needed, be interested to know which is the better nylex or the ht steel
    cheers again.

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    Try deformed nuts they may be better.
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    I use Nyloc and Loktite!

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    Just some info....

    *Nylocs or rather "Nylon Inset Locknuts" should only be used once.
    *shouldn't need any other locking such as using thread lock.

    The more important part..
    *Land Rover prop shaft retaining nuts and bolts are a 3/8 UNF thread, this includes new Defender TDCi (puma) models, the 3/8 UNF thread is also used on the diff carriers (non Salisbury diffs).

    *The original 3/8 UNF nylon locking nuts Land Rover use are some non standard thickness.
    *You can buy either thicker nuts or thinner nuts.
    *In some applications such as Land Rover Discovery 2, the bolts on the transfer case end are too short too use the thicker nuts, so using the thinner nuts resolves this.
    *The rear prop shaft on the transfer case on a Defender shouldnt (well not that I have seen) doesnt suffer the short bolt issue, so using the thicker nuts should be ok.

    *You are not doing something silly such as using a Metric Fine nut are you?While I havent tried this and wouldnt have thought the thread pitch would be close enough for it to tighten up.

    Pic below: Left 3/8 UNF thin nut, centre 3/8 UNF Land Rover nut, right 3/8 UNF standard thickness.

    Its common for repairers *cough* dealers to re-use the nylocs, prolly because they dont know the nuts arent metric.

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    P.S Using a nylon locking nut that is too thick doesnt allow the thread to cut into the nylon part right at the end of the nut
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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzaTD5 View Post
    Its common for repairers *cough* dealers to re-use the nylocs, prolly because they dont know the nuts arent metric.
    What's metric or otherwise got to do with not re-using nyloc nuts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    What's metric or otherwise got to do with not re-using nyloc nuts?
    They get re-used because the 3/8 UNF isnt something most workshop would have or even realise that its not a metric thread.

    They also get re-used as how many workshops carry a range of nylon locking nuts?

    Also how many would then make a run to the local fastener place to match up the odd nut?

    The bigger workshops, a trades person might go to his/her supervisor and ask for new nylon locking nuts and likely get told, we dont have them, just use loctite.

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    Few other things will cause such catastrophic damage if they come off. I would insist on new ones and then check they have been changed, or change them myself
    Just my opinion though.
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    Nylocs don't normally come loose if the application is correct.
    Use the correct (new) nuts and service removable Loctite (as back-up)!


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