Geez Pat.... From all your posts, u seem very anti Toyota / Nissan ,etc
With the shear numbers of Toyota's sold, as u know, u are always going to get some failures, when compared to the numbers sold, the % would be very small....
Just look at JEEP.... from what I read on the web in recent times, Jeep is coping a fogging for their lack of reliability and lack of customer service..... They might even surpass LR in the bad rap that they had from times gone past... lol



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