Thread: A sad Day. Goodby Deefer.

Originally Posted by JamesB71

Thanks mate, but I am looking for something pretty new, or even brand new. Theres a good chance I will trade it in on a new one.

None of my business but I thought you said you owed more than what it's worth.

I'm no financial adviser but I would be inclined to think you're going backwards. Your just going to bury yourself deeper in finance you're already minus equity why make it worse.

It will be cheaper to keep what you have or back trade, the problem is your rig will be better than anything you can back trade to.

I don't think you want a solution to your problems just someone to listen and tell you what you want to hear. (No offence intended).

Yes you should go test drive other vehicles which are more expensive because that makes them more reliable and you should hock yourself for more finance and throw the payout from your Deefer on top. That way your payments can go up and you can owe even more on a more expensive vehicle which will most definitely be more reliable.

Who needs spare income anyway you can always live on soup for the next 7years. Ha ha ha

James I don't know your financial situation and don't really want to know either but you get the point I'm trying to make. Don't haste your decision go get it checked out by an independent specialist. Then come back on here and tell us what eventuates.

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

James I'm right with you.

After owning a a d2 for 8 yrs and spending $70,000 to prevent it letting me down in the bush, I caved in .

I had enough of the endless necessary maintenance and costs involved in using a Land Rover as it was designed to be used.

6months ago I decided I'd had enough and purchased a Ford Ranger 2.2 single c/c 4wd manual , for half the price of a Defender.

It uses probably 20% less fuel , is 50% quieter , is easy and light to drive , room for my elbows etc etc.

It has only done one 6000km bush trip so far , but did it with aplomb.

I am genuinely happy to be happy to be out of the marque , knowing that I don't have some interminable maintenance issue to be resolved before attempting my next trip.

I just hope the turbo hose thing is only a Land Rover problem as it appears a few have had it.

James maybe one the members lauding Defenders here may purchase yours at a reasonable price to recover your losses or at least break even , after all as most have said in reply to you, "it's just a hose , fix it". They should be able to purchase your vehicle at a good price with total confidence , shouldn't they?

I have to ask,how do you spend $70,000 on a D2?. Pat

Originally Posted by JamesB71

Great idea. Defender going cheap. Which stalwart Landy tragic wants it?

UPDATE:- The good news is that the latest problem isnt the head - its just the EGR cooler. They are replacing it.

Im still selling it. Anyone want a Deefer with a brand new set of turbo hoses and EGR valve?

Dunno mate,how can you have so many problems?. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

I have to ask,how do you spend $70,000 on a D2?. Pat

eg/ 3 harmonic balancers , 3 front drive shafts , 2 fuel pumps, fuel pressure regulators, indicator switch, 3 amigos. lot lots more over 8 yrs and 200,000+km

Originally Posted by 1nando

Its something that needs to be made redundant by blankibg and turning off the egr with a remap......

Done that ,curtesy of DPL:thumbs:but what's an EGR cooler?

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

Its right next to the headlight fluid reservoir, secured to the firewall with lightning bolts. Need to get a left-handed screwdriver on the other side of it to service.

Sorry for the late reply,but just got back from getting a left handed screwdriver from Bunnings(useless salesman/boy didn't know where they had em stored).So I'm assuming the lightning bolts are the ones that spark when you touch them with said screwdriver,but what does the smoke mean.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

James I'm right with you.

After owning a a d2 for 8 yrs and spending $70,000 to prevent it letting me down in the bush, I caved in .

I had enough of the endless necessary maintenance and costs involved in using a Land Rover as it was designed to be used.

6months ago I decided I'd had enough and purchased a Ford Ranger 2.2 single c/c 4wd manual , for half the price of a Defender.

It uses probably 20% less fuel , is 50% quieter , is easy and light to drive , room for my elbows etc etc.

It has only done one 6000km bush trip so far , but did it with aplomb.

I am genuinely happy to be happy to be out of the marque , knowing that I don't have some interminable maintenance issue to be resolved before attempting my next trip.

I just hope the turbo hose thing is only a Land Rover problem as it appears a few have had it.

James maybe one the members lauding Defenders here may purchase yours at a reasonable price to recover your losses or at least break even , after all as most have said in reply to you, "it's just a hose , fix it". They should be able to purchase your vehicle at a good price with total confidence , shouldn't they?

Not trying to be smart here but the bad news is that the Ranger 2.2l engine and 6 speed manual gearbox is basically the same as in the current Defender, Transit etc. Hence given it is the same family of Ford engine (Puma) it will possibly have the same problems such as EGR cooler leak, MAP and MAF sensor, rear main seal leaks and other problems related to the Ford engine in the future. Check Transit, Mazda and Ford forums and you will see I'm not wrong. Quite a few 3.2 engines fried due to coolant hoses rubbing on chassis and shot intercoolers due to faulty manufacture. Beginning to sound familiar?

I had a 2012 BT 50 3.2 4x4. Took it to the Victoria high country last year on the weekend of the track closures. Rivers not high but interesting. After the trip I replaced front cross member, replaced front lower suspension arm, had to have the lower suspension arm mount professionally straightened as it was impacted by rocks on crossings a Defender would eat for breakfast. Cruise control would cut out dangerously loosing power. Standard, they are not really up to more serious 4 wheel driving without spending extra money on a lift, tyres etc. On that trip I came across two relatively new Landcruiser V8's. One stranded with blown diff and one with blown low range transfer.

BT 50 sold and now back in a useless, unreliable, loud, rough, uncomfortable Defender.

I also have a 2011 2.4 Transit which has just tripped 160,000 km and engine has been basically reliable apart from odd reduced power at times which involves switching off and restarting the car. So there is good and bad in every thing these days. My 2007 2.4 Defender was reliable.

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

Its right next to the headlight fluid reservoir, secured to the firewall with lightning bolts. Need to get a left-handed screwdriver on the other side of it to service.

😀 And it's the most important component in the 100% reliable new type of mechanical conveyance, coming in 2018, it never breaks down and it's code named the defender unicorn.