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    110 County engine upgrade

    After 30 years of service it's time to find a bit more power. Having started to refine highway behaviour by changing the hi-range gearing in the lt95, I'm looking at replacing the 3.5 v8 with either a 3.9 or 4.0 engine from a disco.
    Question: can I keep the intake manifold and carbie from the 3.5 and use it with my electronic ignition system on the upgrade. I was hoping to keep a fairly original looking engine bay and want to avoid the efi wiring.
    Interested in ideas before I get serious about finding a donor.
    Thanks
    Mustlust

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    Certainly can maintain the natural county engine bay look with even a 5.2 upgrade....��.

    Make sure that you get/ build an engine with high compression (your 3.5 has 9.35:1) and even more importantly that the carb needles get changed to suit engine capacity. You will be amazed at how much torque an SU fed engine can produce when they are set up right!!!
    My pick would be a post 2002 4litre d2 or a 1999 on p38a 4.6 as they are 9.23:1 compression ratio.

    Jc
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    The best upgrade to a 3.9 is ....... Isuzu
    I put a second hand truck engine in mine back in the 80,s and its never given any trouble. Best thing I ever did.
    But then I am a bit deaf

    Good luck.
    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123rover50 View Post
    The best upgrade to a 3.9 is ....... Isuzu
    I put a second hand truck engine in mine back in the 80,s and its never given any trouble. Best thing I ever did.
    But then I am a bit deaf

    Good luck.
    Keith
    I drove Bearman's 3.9 Isuzu county and it's no louder than my 2013 D90. I would love a 3.9 Isuzu....

    Sorry Mustlust, I don't have anymore than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123rover50 View Post
    The best upgrade to a 3.9 is ....... Isuzu
    I put a second hand truck engine in mine back in the 80,s and its never given any trouble. Best thing I ever did.
    But then I am a bit deaf

    Good luck.
    Keith

    AFM (through Grey's) auctioned off several 4BD1 (n/a and t) motors this week.
    May be worth bidding next time.
    Phil B

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    1978 S3 swb canvas
    48 749 '88 4x4 Perentie
    1985 County with 4BD1T

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    While the diesel is clearly an excellent motor, I'm trying to keep costs down and having sunk $ into the elec ignition system and carbie overhaul, trying to stay on the good side of the wife.
    Will keep an eye out for a later model donk....and the attempt to rebuild. Last engine I rebuilt was a Renault 12 nearly 30 years ago when the engine died the day after I finished uni. How hard can it be to marry an early intake manifold to a later block?
    Mustlust

    1950 Series 1 80in lights behind grill
    1950 Series 1 80in rolling chassis looking for a body
    1956 Series 1 86in
    1956 Series 1 107
    1957 Series 1 88in
    1967 Mustang coupe 347 stroker
    2011 Discovery 4 3.0
    2009 110 utility 2.4tdci

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    Q: why a high compression engine? What's the difference?
    Would a 3.5 rebuild be ok, if budget limits my options?
    Mustlust

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    1950 Series 1 80in rolling chassis looking for a body
    1956 Series 1 86in
    1956 Series 1 107
    1957 Series 1 88in
    1967 Mustang coupe 347 stroker
    2011 Discovery 4 3.0
    2009 110 utility 2.4tdci

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    The 3.5 is the most reliable version of the land Rover V8, because the block is that much thicker around the smaller cylinders. So for a rebuild on a budget, I'd stick to the basics and redo your own motor. Rings, bearings, a quality towing camshaft and timing chain should set it up for another 300,000km. The bigger capacity motors, especially the low compression ones, are as thirsty as hell and not that much more powerful (excepting the 4.6 of course). Best of all is that you can do most of the work with the engine block still installed, unless you have a badly leaking rear crank seal.

    If you do end up finding a later engine in excellent condition for not much, all your accessories will fit with minor modifications only, some of the bolt holes in the block and heads did change over the years.

    High compression is an advantage in Australia as our fuels are generally good quality, low compression motors were introduced for world markets where fuel quality was poor, and also for emissions reasons. Which don't really matter unless you live and commute into the inner city with it.

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    Found a cheap D2 engine with a liner problem that could make for a possible project build. Can the serpentine belt pulleys be taken off and replaced with my original v belt auxillary items? Would also put on original intake manifold. Does this work?
    Mustlust

    1950 Series 1 80in lights behind grill
    1950 Series 1 80in rolling chassis looking for a body
    1956 Series 1 86in
    1956 Series 1 107
    1957 Series 1 88in
    1967 Mustang coupe 347 stroker
    2011 Discovery 4 3.0
    2009 110 utility 2.4tdci

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustlust View Post
    Found a cheap D2 engine with a liner problem that could make for a possible project build. Can the serpentine belt pulleys be taken off and replaced with my original v belt auxillary items? Would also put on original intake manifold. Does this work?
    To fit one of the 4.0/4.6 family engines, you will need to replace the camshaft in any case, it has to drive your distributor which the late engine doesn't have, and use your sump, front cover, oil pickup, inlet manifold etc. You also need a spacer behind the front pulley bolt as the crank is slightly longer. I wouldn't bother unless you found a 4.6, as "top hat" (flanged) liner replacement will set you back $thousands. A 3.9 on the other hand has the correct cam but suffers from a lack of block strength just like the 4.0/4.6.

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