Thread: Defenders on "Car Sales."

Originally Posted by manic

You cant say the defenders are desirable just because they are iconic. The defender is iconic for good reasons and not all of it is historical.

Now more than ever, it is versatile in ways most other 4x4s are not. Defender has scope for 90, 110, 130, utes, camper bodies, pop tops, ambulances, fire engines.... bolt ons galore!

You cannot 'build' a D1-2-3-4-5 like you can a defender. A defender has 35 years of genuine parts to choose from. Then theres the aftermarket which is huge. There have been countless custom builds done for services, overlanders and enthusiasts. Its all out there, pick and choose or dare to attempt something unique.

Durability and practicallity - yep, still got it. If you smash up a panel, unbolt it and replace. The engine and driveline all sit in space that is easilly accessible should you need to spin a spanner. It has a high usable payload with versatile range of suspension options to suit.

A defender is a 4x4 that can get out there and explore worldwide. The rest are almost entirely family orientated SUVs for sophisticated markets.

For these reasons and more it is still one of the best expedition/adventure 4x4s available. Prices reflect that. SUVs in the show rooms today do not even come close.

Yep. After a Defender, you are left with a Troopy, or an OKA. Or, if you are rich, a Gelandenwagen. Great vehicles, no doubt ( unless you speak to the Emergency Services ), but one hell of a price for a starting point, and where are the bits? MB are hard pressed supplying the cars.

Originally Posted by johntins

Yep. The whole discussion is pointless, really, as it's horses for courses, and my needs differ from yours. I wish I could keep my D2 and do what it is I want to do. It would be cheaper, as you say. But, I will probably be living in what I get. No way my D2 is OK for that.

The 110 has a bit more room for sure. Would the D2 work for you John if you removed all seating bar fronts?

Cheers

As has often been said before on this forum - there is a Land Rover for every stage of your life!

Originally Posted by Zeros

The choice is endless if you don't want a Defender.

Name me one with a 130" wheelbase that can be made into a wagon, with a pop top, fitted out with full airbag suspension, and fitted with a 3.2 for less than a std Troopy with merely a pop top and some suspension work and some cupboards. Name me one, other than a Troopy, that can be converted into a true poptop motorhome/camper. Don't say a G-Wagen, as it fails all fences here. What "endless" choices do you see? Serious question, Zeroes, as I am looking for just that car right now. The only thing close is a secondhand OKA. I would love to hear of alternatives.

Originally Posted by ozscott

The 110 has a bit more room for sure. Would the D2 work for you John if you removed all seating bar fronts?

Cheers

No. I wish that it would, as I have two here to build from. I need to be able to live in and from the car. I have spent half of my life towing something, and am allergic to doing it now. I am 6'1" in the old language. I need tools, fridges, but, being nearly 65, I mostly need comfort.

Perhaps I could use both D2s to make a decent ute with a trayon or something, but then I'd never go, and go is what I need to do.

I would spend, once the house sells, up to around $100K on the Defender, or OKA, I want.

Originally Posted by johntins

Name me one with a 130" wheelbase that can be made into a wagon, with a pop top, fitted out with full airbag suspension, and fitted with a 3.2 for less than a std Troopy with merely a pop top and some suspension work and some cupboards. Name me one, other than a Troopy, that can be converted into a true poptop motorhome/camper. Don't say a G-Wagen, as it fails all fences here. What "endless" choices do you see? Serious question, Zeroes, as I am looking for just that car right now. The only thing close is a secondhand OKA. I would love to hear of alternatives.

A ford ranger? Same wheelbase amd is a 3.2.

Originally Posted by Vern

A ford ranger?

My son has one of those, and I can seriously answer, that while is a good family ute, it meets absolutely NONE of my needs.

Originally Posted by johntins

My son has one of those, and I can seriously answer, that while is a good family ute, it meets absolutely NONE of my needs.

Yes, but it does have two of those things you asked for.

I actually looked at one yesterday in the prospect of being a new car, took less than 30 seconds to cross it off the list. No room