Defenders on "Car Sales."

**martnH** · 19th January 2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by 1nando

Lol...according to you a defender isn't heavy duty but is a sprinter 4x4? The guy who does our welding had a sprinter and its the biggest piece of s..t hes ever owned he said. He bought it cause he wanted a "big tough" cab chassis to carry all his welding gear and ended up with constant suspension and wheel issues plus countless engine faults which cant seem to be fixed. It was so tough he got rid of it and bought a ford f150. Its doing the job no problem.

Anyone who says a defender is underpowered is missing the point of a defender! I know as ive got a 400hp patrol and i miss the defenders slow but steady "putting along". The defender is a tractor, a working vehicle and its supposed to do things as slowly as possible and as fast as necessary. You want a big horse power 4wd buy something else.

A defender is a canvas from which each individual can build their own idea of the perfect getaway vehicle providing a sense of adventure amd free spirit. Thats why they command such a great resale price. Vehicles like the defender are almost extinct and therefore if you want one you need to pay the premium.

My Patrol is better at a lot of things compared to what my defender was but let me tell you that if i had both sitting in the driveway and there was a zombie apocalypse tomorrow id take the defender every time! Why? Cause it was tough, could get me anywhere i pointed it and always got me home! I miss that car more than i missed any ex girlfriend after a breakup.....

Ps i made similar comments about how good my defender was compared to my bramd new my18 Patrol on the patrol forum and i was ridiculed and torn to shreds for making such a statement. One bloke actually told me my y62 was better offroad. I told that bloke that a y62, my mate mates twin locked and lifted gu on 35s, my mates 79 series, hilux, triton all struggled keeping up with it offroad and i was called a liar.....i eventually blew up and asked why they hated LRs so much? I eas told they were "unrelaible" yet none of them have owned one. One guy said he had one years ago and it was the most unrelaible car he ever had in his fleet. Maybe it was i dont know but to judge a car cause of 1 model is unfair i think.
People love to hate defenders and can't handle the fact that a defender is better offroad than what they own....i stood my ground and will probably get banned from that forum eventually but its the truth!

My defender was and is tough. The bloke that bought it will love that vehcile and i hope i get it back one day

$65k was a bargin in my opinion.

You win

For the record I never said defender is not heavy duty nor the sprinter is
In my opinion heavy duty means being durable, reliable and being designed to withstand demanding use.

**martnH** · 19th January 2018, 12:12 PM

Have you guys seen the latest defender?

Haha exact what I was talking about.

Defender is no longer regarded as a workhorse a utility Vehicle but a status symbol

City boys's new toy

**donh54** · 19th January 2018, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by martnH

Have you guys seen the latest defender?

Haha exact what I was talking about.

Defender is no longer regarded as a workhorse a utility Vehicle but a status symbol

City boys's new toy

I didn't think anyone had seen it yet?

The only pictures so far have been "artists impressions" or a few pics of a (supposed) mule that bears no relationship whatever to what the eventual sheetmetal will look like.

Unless you have an "in" with the factory, in which case you could be making thousands from all the car magazines with your scoop photos!

**martnH** · 19th January 2018, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by donh54

I didn't think anyone had seen it yet?

The only pictures so far have been "artists impressions" or a few pics of a (supposed) mule that bears no relationship whatever to what the eventual sheetmetal will look like.

Unless you have an "in" with the factory, in which case you could be making thousands from all the car magazines with your scoop photos!

Sry I meant the defender with factory V8. I think 500some NM 200some horsepower (not that means much to me

Land rover know this. They know their customers. They buy land rover not for value but status

Following the same logic, the next generation defender will be another wrangler

**donh54** · 19th January 2018, 12:36 PM

Just doing what many other makers have done before them.

GMH and Ford were good at it, too. End of a particular model, they use up the last bits of sheetmetal, add all the final bits of bling they can find from the parts and accessories bin, tweak the biggest engine they have and throw it in, and market it as an "instant classic".

Even better if you whack an outrageous price on it. Some people will always equate that with desirability, and let the moths out of the cheque book.

**Andrew86** · 19th January 2018, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by martnH

Sry I meant the defender with factory V8. I think 500some NM 200some horsepower (not that means much to me

Land rover know this. They know their customers. They buy land rover not for value but status

Following the same logic, the next generation defender will be another wrangler

I hope Land Rover follows exactly what Jeep has achieved with the 2018 Wrangler. They basically kept the formula exactly the same but rebuilt it from the ground up as a modern vehicle. The result, based on the glowing reviews so far, is an incredibly capable, charismatic 4x4 that's quieter, more refined and doesn't have the NVH drawbacks of the old model.

As for the 500hp Defender; that's just a bit of fun and publicity while we wait for 2020 to arrive. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

**pauloarg** · 19th January 2018, 08:36 PM

Prob not in Carsales but here is a nice manual Deefer 90 available at Subaru Docklands in Melbourne. MY11 and only travelled 35k.

2011 Land Rover Defender 90 (Black) for sale in Docklands - Subaru Interactive @ Docklands

**ATH** · 20th January 2018, 07:32 PM

I've just put our Puma 110 back on carsales after taking it off for Xmas and travelling. I'm might try the gum nutters site as well. :0
AlanH.

**Pickles2** · 20th January 2018, 08:08 PM

Put Gracie up on Carsales,...1st genuine inquiry after 2 days, saw Gracie, & bought her,...but He'd been looking, on & off, for a couple of years!.....Gracie was absolutely like new, even though she'd traveled 60ks.
Pickles.

**Chops** · 21st January 2018, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Put Gracie up on Carsales,...1st genuine inquiry after 2 days, saw Gracie, & bought her,...but He'd been looking, on & off, for a couple of years!.....Gracie was absolutely like new, even though she'd traveled 60ks.
Pickles.

Hope you got what you were after for her,,, and the question now remains,,,, Whats next?

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