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    Cooper tyres on 110

    Hi all

    Has anyone had experience with Cooper S/T MAXX 235/85R16's on a defender 110?

    I had two fitted to the rear on the weekend (on advice from the local tyre specialist). Prior to this I had Michelin XZY 750R16's which were due for replacement. I was looking for a quality tyre with a long life. Still have Michelin's on the front.

    The Coopers are certainly quieter but the vehicle (ute) feels unstable on the rear and for the first time ever I got in a rear slide driving home on a (gravel) road I drive everyday, and have done for 20 years.

    Have I got the wrong tyre? Would it likely improve if I spend the additional $660 and fit them to the front?

    Appreciate any guidance.


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    Hi there, I run B F Goodrich 235 x 85 A/T Excellent tyre, Frist set lasted 90,000kms no punctures, and never rotated them either. Also have a set of Goodrich M/T. Great tyre. The current set of A/T did the Cape York and telegraph Track run last year, got back undamaged, this set now has 40,000Kms on them. Had a set of Coopers for a while. Had two total failures one in the tread and one in the side wall at about 50,000kms. Would never use them again. The tyres were ok but didn't last. Cheers Bill

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    Thanks Bill

    I used to run those BFG's on a range rover back in the 80's, from memory I had no issues with them.

    Re the Coopers I rang the Cooper support line and they told me the pressure should not be more than 32. The shop put 40 in so I will lower and see how we go.
    Simon


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    I have a set of Cooper AT3's in 235/85 and although they are not the same tyre i have had no issues and find them great.

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    Had Cooper STs on my 110 and now on my 130 have done Hay River Track, Madigan Line, Anne Beadell, Cape York Telegraph Track Birdsville Inside Track, Cross country Simpson West east via Geosurveys Hill and apart from a couple of minor punctures on sharp mulga roots I have had no problem with them
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    I had cooper stt on my 130 defender all of which failed from side wall blow outs
    With only 15-20K on them .
    And don't try getting any support or warranty as its your fault you were running the wrong tyre pressures .
    My suggestion is sell them off for landfill or some form of recycling because they will let you down
    STAY AWAY FROM COOPER TYRES .
    just google reveiws .

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    I had Coopers 235 on my 130 when i bought it. Driving in wet condition was dangerous. Sold them straight away and got bf good 255s. Will never recommend Cooper to anyone

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    I currently have Cooper St Maxx 265/75/16 on my Puma, had them on my last Puma, have them on my Colorado 7, had them on my Colorado ute, had them on my Hilux, had them on my Nissan Patrol, I think you get the picture.

    The Coopers used to have a bad rep over 10 years ago but the compound and manufacturing had changed.

    I love them haven't had a problem with any of them.

    Strongest sidewall protection of any tyre on the market.

    Here is how it works - they are a three ply sidewall, yes just like the BFG but here is the difference.
    The sidewall thickness is measured by Denier, BFG has 3,000 Denier 1,000 Denier each ply, whereas Coopers has a 5,000 Denier sidewall, 2,000 Denier 1st ply, 2,000 Denier 2nd ply and the third which is a cross ply is 1,000 Denier.
    So the Coopers have a stronger stiffer sidewall.

    I recommend them ✅✅✅

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    I'm still a newb with 4wd tyre tech... I've never purchased 4wd tyres before (but I'm almost due to), and usually always run 'street slicks' on the 300zx due to the massive amounts of grip that I get (got more grip on 16" 235's than on 18" 265's).

    As I understand, the tread design is one thing (in addition to the HT/AT/MT styles), but composition also helps- things like silica assist with grip at low speed, but firm up at higher speed (ie grippier in rock crawling / offroad, less rolling resistance and better wear at highway speeds).

    Wouldn't a stiffer sidewall like the 5000 denier coopers prevent bagging at low pressures, and reduce grip offroad? Or is it more a compromise between keeping the bead seated and bagging?

    My short list was BFG's or Coopers... not sure how Goodyear's stack up for the coin (i hear they are rather pricy).

    So yeah... I'm staying tuned for more advice. top thread.
    -Mitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger View Post
    I'm still a newb with 4wd tyre tech... I've never purchased 4wd tyres before (but I'm almost due to), and usually always run 'street slicks' on the 300zx due to the massive amounts of grip that I get (got more grip on 16" 235's than on 18" 265's). As I understand, the tread design is one thing (in addition to the HT/AT/MT styles), but composition also helps- things like silica assist with grip at low speed, but firm up at higher speed (ie grippier in rock crawling / offroad, less rolling resistance and better wear at highway speeds). Wouldn't a stiffer sidewall like the 5000 denier coopers prevent bagging at low pressures, and reduce grip offroad? Or is it more a compromise between keeping the bead seated and bagging? My short list was BFG's or Coopers... not sure how Goodyear's stack up for the coin (i hear they are rather pricy). So yeah... I'm staying tuned for more advice. top thread.

    Yes to the Coopers bagging less, and Goodyear have a 2 ply sidewall, 1,000 each so in total only 2,000 denier. They pride themselves in other areas. Me preferably have more confidence in a stronger sidewall.

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