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    Warranty about to expire - Clutch rattles, Adapter shaft and door servo

    My 3yr warranty was running out before end of May, and the vehicle now has ~53,000km on the clock - So with just a few days to spare before the end of May - I booked my MY2013 DCPU in for a bit of warranty work:
    1. the oft reported (by others) clutch rattle had set in.
    2. wanted the adapter shaft checked as previously (almost) eliminated driveline backlash had returned to a degree
    3. right rear door lock actuator failed

    Good thing I insisted they check on the adapter shaft...Pictures tell a better story:
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    I think it's a disgrace that this problem has effected so many vehicles yet LR have never acknowledged there's a problem. I'm in the position of "shall I/shan't I? get this changed although the stealer put in a new transfer box at 96K and I pleaded with the service foreman to make sure it was greased. Did they or didn't they? He didn't seem that interested.
    Who knows so it's either get it done at a not inconsiderable 1400 bucks or so.... should I get a new clutch at the same time?
    Quite frankly I've reached the stage of (actually I reached it long ago but I'm under the thumb and the Cook wants me to keep it) getting rid of it.
    It's a great performer off road but I'm not into hard core crap and have reached the age where comfort and reliability is more important although it's not yet let us down...... but waiting for this major part to let go doesn't do my already bad temper any good at all.
    AlanH.

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    I have clutch rattle in my 2015 since 8000kms.
    Dealer inspected the noise at the 10k service and told me they have to rip it out, so it will be 2 days there.

    If I ask them to take pics of the shaft, that my make me feel at ease.
    2015 Defender 110

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlz View Post
    I have clutch rattle in my 2015 since 8000kms.
    Dealer inspected the noise at the 10k service and told me they have to rip it out, so it will be 2 days there.

    If I ask them to take pics of the shaft, that my make me feel at ease.
    Pretty much what I did. They were taking the gearbox out for the clutch so insisted they split off the t'fer case and send me pics of the adapter shaft.
    Neil
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    Having been caught out here, breaking down, away from home, on the side of the road, I can say that this is a REAL issue.
    Our 90 had done only a very easy 40K, yet we were "struck down", and it is NOT a pleasant experience.
    I would suggest that if ya've got a Defender, ya get this checked out,....surely it must be close to a recall situation,..I suppose we're just lucky ours happened within warranty,....transport back to Dealership, & repairs, out of warranty, would not have been cheap.
    So, I say, if ya haven't had ya're intermediate shaft checked, then ya definitely should.
    Pickles.

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    A mate of mine had his go without warning at Balladonia on his way back from the east. 2007 vehicle flat bedded back to Perth. Lucky it was at a road house as him and his wife have done many remote trips on their own.
    Haven't heard from him since (wonder if he blames me?) but suspect he's gone back to Nissan as he had a shortie Patrol for over 20 years with no mechanical probs..... but it fell apart with rust! At least that was predictable.
    AlanH.

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    I think that this is a topic this is going to keep coming up , as more and more owners experience this problem . It obvious this shaft will fail , it's only a question of when ? This mating is poor design from an engineering point of view . Just a mix and match . Could anyone tell me what the cost to replace a shaft , plus labour is once outside warranty ? The thing is there being replaced , but are going to fail after another xx amount of miles . I know they can be adapted to keep the grease in , or oil fed , but the dealers aren't doing this !!.. Jim

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    Now you've scared me!

    I've got my 2012 110 booked in with The Landy Center Cairns for its 90K service on Friday.
    I"ll get them to look into my clutch rattle with a HD replacement (tow a van), and take their advice re the intermediate shaft mod. Hope mine is ok. I'll report back with info on non warranty replacement costs.
    My vehicle is running fine, but I'd rather have suspect parts replaced now than them let me down in the Simson etc.
    Best wishes all.
    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimr1 View Post
    I think that this is a topic this is going to keep coming up , as more and more owners experience this problem . It obvious this shaft will fail , it's only a question of when ? This mating is poor design from an engineering point of view . Just a mix and match . Could anyone tell me what the cost to replace a shaft , plus labour is once outside warranty ? The thing is there being replaced , but are going to fail after another xx amount of miles . I know they can be adapted to keep the grease in , or oil fed , but the dealers aren't doing this !!.. Jim
    After doing dropping my transfer box with help from 2 fellow members I would suggest any competent mechanic could do it.
    It would be a full days work at hourly rates plus parts(input seal, etc.) and oil.
    The Ashcroft kit is the way I would go if it needed replacing, they modify factory units and have a good reputation.

    http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co...shaft-kit.html @$560 plus shipping.
    Biggest thing is until it's out you don't know if you need the kit.
    Cheers, Kyle



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    Hi All,
    I had a rough quote from Les Richmond Automotive in Vic to supply and install the shaft was around $1000. I think this is quite reasonable.

    I was recently speaking a LR mechanic who told me that Defenders built AFTER 2011 had that shaft 'cross-drilled' and therefore they are lubricated by the oil in the transfer...? He was adamant....

    Cheers,
    Michael
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