Thread: Dual thematic fans on 2.2 Puma 110

What a great modification!
This threat has morphed to general cooling mods for the Puma, but that's great.Bring them on!
Can't sleep, bugger.
Ken.

Bruce davis kit looks the goods. Exy though and looks like the filter will be hanging too low for my liking

I have been eyeing off the modified filter housings for the Transit too, can then use a universal remote oil cooler and/or remote oil filter kit.

Need to measure up/talk to sellers as none are listed for Defender. I have noticed the defender filter housing has a ford logo on it, i have not gone as far as cross referencing part numbers..... yet.

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Remember. A transaction is when 2 fools meet

So the questions that should be answered first:

Is there enough oil in the system already?
Is there sufficient cooling to handle all operating conditions?
Is the oil always operating within parameters?

Then let's add...

Does the system alter operating pressure?
How much thermal drag does the additional cooler add to the other cooling systems?
How does one drain/prime the cooler when doing oil changes?
The extra depth of the spacer lowers the filter - any risk?

It's the nature of people to think they can improve on a team of engineers testing under controlled conditions...

In this instance, the same engine has been used in Transits etc under fully loaded conditions for years without a single problem - we have a fleet owner here - most engines are at 300,000+ km now and always fully loaded operating in all weather conditions..

Originally Posted by Tombie

Remember. A transaction is when 2 fools meet

But ive never met you.

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That Davis setup looks like more trouble than its worth. Lots of hose fittings to come loose...
I'm starting to sound like a real stick in the mud on this forum (sorry Ken) but all in the name of giving heplful advice.

If you're trying maximise the cooling capacity margin on your vehicle, it might be worth looking at it with a "Less is More" approach. Such as:

• Reduce the glycol concentration in your coolant from 50/50 down to say 70/30 or 80/20 and add a water wetter (don't forget to chuck in some extra corrosion inhibitor if going to 80/20). This will allow the cooling system to dump heat more efficiently. With greater cooling capacity, your temps should be more stable and make it worthwhile to change to the lower temp PEL500110 thermostat.
• Convert your aircon to "Hychill" or other hydrocarbon refrigerant. This gives much lower operating pressures, less drag on the engine and colder cabin temps.
• With 'Hychill' you can then REMOVE the electric condenser fan (sounds illogical for better cooling) because of the lower pressures in the condenser. The fan is just an obstruction to airflow for 99% of the time and does nothing for engine cooling. As would be an auxilliary thermo fan and an auxilliary oil cooler and filter out front.
• The puma already has a water cooled oil cooler built in. If you get the coolant running cooler, your oil will also be cooler. So will the fuel.
• Instead of the Davis conversion, why not just convert to the genuine spin on oil filter/oil cooler of the later 2.2 Puma. Might be cheaper.
• The ~$500 you would have spent on the Evans conversion, spend that on insulating the cabin instead. This will further reduce load on the improved aircon system.
• Remove the exhaust catalyst if you're ethically comfortable doing so. It's another obstruction to airlfow through the engine bay, heats everything around it and is a fire risk if you're out in the scrub.

If you're not familiar with water wetters, wetting agents, surfactants etc. This is a good video:

[ame]https://youtu.be/vEvwjGmPIzI[/ame]




Cheers
Tom

Originally Posted by SSmith

But ive never met you.

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Hahahaha!!!


One of the aftermarket industries biggest successes is convincing people they need stuff!!!!

There are a few must haves
Several should haves
Plenty of nice to haves

And a ridiculous quantity of "Got to haves because it sounds like I should"

Originally Posted by Tombie

Hahahaha!!!
There are a few must haves
Several should haves
Plenty of nice to haves

Glad there are a few people in the world with a sense of humour left.
Seen a few spetacular barnies this week, one even involved an iron bar.

"Tis the season to be grumpy" erm......

Still trying to figure out which is the must have etc.

So do you think the extra heat generated by a remap warrants extra cooling?, intercooler is a must (imo) just considering the rest of the system.

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