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    Observations from the Sahara

    So i was recently in Morocco and ventured down to the edge of the Sahara at Merzouga.
    A few things i noticed...
    Defenders out number every other 4x4 by far. Locals and tourists.
    In 2 weeks i saw only about 3 landcruisers. 1 a troopy and 2 others. I saw 3 RR classics a few VW Amaroks and 1 Toureg. 1 Hummer H3 and a few pajeros plus a smattering of others. No Patrols that i can remember. Heaps of Evoques and 1 Barabus Mercedes G Wagon in a city.
    The other thing i really noticed was tyre width. So Morocco is very rocky and also very sandy. I saw a Rav 4 with fat mud terrains and a Pajero with big tyres also. Everyone else and all locals run skinny tyres that most serious Aussie Simpson Desert prepped cars wouldnt be seen dead in.





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    It's funny how the Europeans don't smother their vehicles in a ton of ARB crap yet travel all over the 3rd world without bursting tyres and snapping chassis. Pat

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    Observations from the Sahara

    First pic looks like a run down town run about, bet it doesn't overland

    Second pic, could be an overlanders, sleeping arrangements don't look much chop

    Third pic, the series that has never been off road...another town runabout

    Fourth pic...again not a touring defender

    Fifth.....it's got a heap of crap hanging off it and doesn't look like it's overland ever

    You're on the money Pat....although I've been researching pretty hard of late as I'm setting out up for a 3rd world country overland trip.....your only about cars covered in ARB Crap, suppose I better ditch my Compressor as it the only ARB branded bit I have...all should be good eh??

    A quick google search 'overland defender 110' shows me most have lots of fit for purpose accessories

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    We'll eventually realise why Land Rover has always said you dont need wide tyres. It's just the consumer market that loves the look of wide tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beery View Post
    We'll eventually realise why Land Rover has always said you dont need wide tyres. It's just the consumer market that loves the look of wide tyres.
    Yep, agree...235's are wide enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    First pic looks like a run down town run about, bet it doesn't overland

    Second pic, could be an overlanders, sleeping arrangements don't look much chop

    Third pic, the series that has never been off road...another town runabout

    Fourth pic...again not a touring defender

    Fifth.....it's got a heap of crap hanging off it and doesn't look like it's overland ever

    You're on the money Pat....although I've been researching pretty hard of late as I'm setting out up for a 3rd world country overland trip.....your only about cars covered in ARB Crap, suppose I better ditch my Compressor as it the only ARB branded bit I have...all should be good eh??

    A quick google search 'overland defender 110' shows me most have lots of fit for purpose accessories
    These are all just local work trucks except the green series.
    The first image can you see the sand dune poking up in the background?
    Second was a tourist with a bed in the back.
    The green one is in Ouarzazate in the High Atlas Mountains. Pretty stony area off the main drag.
    The Blue one is a cop car and the red is a tow truck that i saw in use every day i was there.
    The Tourists i saw just nick down from Spain or France for the xmas holidays to play in the desert. They are not living in them while they travel around the world. Did see many with roof tents though . Mainly the James Baroud ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timax View Post
    These are all just local work trucks except the green series.
    The first image can you see the sand dune poking up in the background?
    Second was a tourist with a bed in the back.
    The green one is in Ouarzazate in the High Atlas Mountains. Pretty stony area off the main drag.
    The Blue one is a cop car and the red is a tow truck that i saw in use every day i was there.
    The Tourists i saw just nick down from Spain or France for the xmas holidays to play in the desert. They are not living in them while they travel around the world. Did see many with roof tents though . Mainly the James Baroud ones.
    I was repling to Pats post....based on the pics posted I cannot get my head around his comment.

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    I think some people go for wider tyres thinking they are increasing their footprint, not realising they are just causing a wider wall of sand to build up in front of their tyres, making progress harder. Taller tyres give a longer footprint and that is what counts.

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    I rode my motorbike across the Sahara (morocco -> Dakar)
    Met a bloke in a series 3 who kindly agreed to carry my gear so I could carry a girl pillion

    Sahara landy and bikes.jpg

    Notice the skinny tyres in the series 2. This was in Morocco down south.
    2015 Defender 110

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    I was repling to Pats post....based on the pics posted I cannot get my head around his comment.
    In three of those pics the vehicles had a bar and rack...

    The police vehicle has a bar and some kind of window covers as well

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