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    Quote Originally Posted by hydronaut View Post
    Last year I replaced the MC on a disco series 1 (I also run a RRC) and went through all of this, and the new MC was a dudd MC (still waiting for my $400 back). The pedal went straight to the floor with the usual squishing noise. Now a new MC does not bleed easily just by itself. You may need to brake the lines at the MC and make sure all that nasty air is gone. Just break them and have a cup of tea. If you then get a teeny amount of pedal pressure you are in business. I know nothing of defenders, but I have little faith in pressure bleeding as such. for the traditionalists, having the missus pump up the brakes while you bleed is a path to divorce and should be treated accordingly. All I do is hang a reservoir 10 feet higher the the car, join the tube from it to the nipple, open it and break every connector under the bonnet, and leave it for a couple of hours. Seems to work. The theory being that if the fluid can seep everywhere you don't want then surely ..... As to the crook MC I eventually swallowed my pride and took it to a great bunch of guys who run a shop. They confirmed the dudd MC and rang the spare parts shop to add some gravitas. $50 well spent. And to get the second opinion, I went to their shop on handbrake and in LR. Finally (and it is easy to say) Don't let the frustration of it all get you down.
    Thanks hydronaut. I called the guy that has serviced my defenders and range rovers for the last 30 years and said to crack the two connections on the side of the mc (there are three altogether on this model, the other underneath) and pump the pedal slowly a couple of times. Much as you suggest.
    No assistant for a couple of days and going to be 40+ until Tuesday so i guess she will not be keen to pump the pedal till it cools down a little.

    Anyway i will try that first thing tomorrow. Have managed to get some hose clamps and a replacement hose for the rear. Re the no fluid flow at the rear he suggested removing the nipples and poking a small drill bit in the hole to dislodge any foreign matter. Hope i dont run out of fresh brake fluid.

    Rego is due tomorrow :-)
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    Travelrover

    Adventure before Dementia

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    Quote Originally Posted by travelrover View Post
    Thanks hydronaut. I called the guy that has serviced my defenders and range rovers for the last 30 years and said to crack the two connections on the side of the mc (there are three altogether on this model, the other underneath) and pump the pedal slowly a couple of times. Much as you suggest.
    No assistant for a couple of days and going to be 40+ until Tuesday so i guess she will not be keen to pump the pedal till it cools down a little.

    Anyway i will try that first thing tomorrow. Have managed to get some hose clamps and a replacement hose for the rear. Re the no fluid flow at the rear he suggested removing the nipples and poking a small drill bit in the hole to dislodge any foreign matter. Hope i dont run out of fresh brake fluid.

    Rego is due tomorrow :-)

    some supercheaps have brake fluid by 4+ litres. much cheaper

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    Brake Issue

    You might like to check the brake damper as when it fails you will get no brake pressure.

    When they are on the way out, the pedal will act intermittently, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not work, and sometime it half works. There is no way I know of to test it, and it is sealed, so the only option is to replace it. It is the small disk like object between the master cylinder and the slave cylinder, located next to the slave cylinder. It is cheap and easy to get and easy to replace, and may cure your dodgy pedal.



    Quote Originally Posted by travelrover View Post
    I was having trouble getting brake peddle pressure as I had decided to flush the system last year. I had some on the second pump which was sort of ok. I bleed the system three times and no change, but rego is coming up so on advice of a few I replaced the master cylinder. The replacement was the genuine item.

    When bleeding got plenty of pressure and fluid through the front brakes, but bleeding the rear brakes very very little fluid came through but there was peddle pressure. But then when I went to test the vehicle there was zero pressure, no resistance at all.

    I will re-bleed during the week weather permitting but was wondering what else it may be? No leaks, everything looks fine. Can’t help thinking the new master cylinder..???

    Any clues?

    Also does anyone know what this is, mounted next to the master cylinder. It has three wires (all cut) red white and black and couple of tubes plugged into it.
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    Yesterday I cracked the two lines off the top of the m/c and slowly pumped the pedal a couple of times and I could see bubbles weeping out of the unions. I left it like this for maybe an hour and then tightened them up and finally had some pedal pressure. I left it overnight and this morning there was much more pressure so I took it for a run and it performed well under some heavy braking :-)
    Hopefully problem solved, at least for now.

    Thanks to all for your suggestions.
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    Travelrover

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    2012 Puma 90 - Black
    1999 Td5 110 Ute - White
    1996 Tdi 300 Wagon - White

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    Passed its rego inspection today with no issues so am a happy Chappy :-)
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    Travelrover

    Adventure before Dementia

    2012 Puma 90 - Black
    1999 Td5 110 Ute - White
    1996 Tdi 300 Wagon - White

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