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    Rear Crossmember rust - Warning ** A few 'Wood duck' questions ahead

    Hi All,

    I have managed to scrape together a few funds to get some paint work done on my Defender 90.

    I need the roof repainted as the paint on top of the ribbed section is peeling off, also the rear crossmember has surface rust.

    I have a couple of questions:

    Can I undo the 10 Torx head bolts at the rear and gently lift the body to gain better access to the top of the crossmember? Or are there more bolts I need to remove to be able to achieve this?

    What other dangers am I likely to encounter? Wiring, etc?

    Does anyone have installation/removal instructions for the style of towbar I have fitted?

    Any words of wisdom regarding these required works will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance
    Defenda90

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    Oops - forgot the picture

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    I know.... I know.... I forgot the picture in the original post
    Defenda90

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    Some good quality photos of the rust problem might be the best place to start. You may not need the remove it at all. Give us a look at it. What year is it, and did it ever live where they salt the roads?
    Don.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don 130 View Post
    Some good quality photos of the rust problem might be the best place to start. You may not need the remove it at all. Give us a look at it. What year is it, and did it ever live where they salt the roads?
    Don.
    It appears to just be surface rust, nothing major or structural. I have seen a few other Defenders getting around with the same problem.

    It is my 2004 Defender 90, I have had it since new. No, it has not been anywhere they salt the roads. I don't recall ever driving it on a beach or through salt water, the only sand it has been on is in central Australia.
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    Get some Penetrol. Paint it with neat Penetrol, then two coats of satin black enamel with 15% Penetrol mixed in it. You'll get a nice durable finish. Don't worry about what you can't get to. It won't disappear before you do.

    The Flood Company Australia » Anti Corrosion Products » penetrol-anti_rust

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    The body is anchored to the chassis at a number of points. The rear crossmember, under the rear seat, at the firewall, and the front of the engine bay. However, since the body is not very rigid, you may be able to lift it a centimetre or so by undoing the rear, but no more than that. Any more would mean removing or loosening the other connections, and great care would be needed to avoid distorting the body.

    You need to appreciate that the Defender (and Series before it) body is not lifted onto the chassis in one piece during assembly - it is assembled on the chassis from several major parts (tub, seat box, firewall, roof) and a large number of smaller parts that are bolted together and to the chassis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don 130 View Post
    Get some Penetrol. Paint it with neat Penetrol, then two coats of satin black enamel with 15% Penetrol mixed in it. You'll get a nice durable finish. Don't worry about what you can't get to. It won't disappear before you do.

    The Flood Company Australia » Anti Corrosion Products » penetrol-anti_rust

    Don.
    Yes penetrol is good stuffs
    I have used at least 10 cans on my defender.

    I also just brush painted the cross member and chassis with rust guard. The bindings stuffs $120 for a big can

    Just with a brush. It doesn't look "very" good but I think it will do the job aka "labour effective"....

    You can just see the chassis in the photo attached

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    Quote Originally Posted by defenda90 View Post
    Kf0qwhzYTMetKyIR7q4WWg.jpg

    I know.... I know.... I forgot the picture in the original post
    Removes all the visible bolts and towbar will come out.

    But I will suggest you to penetrol where you can paint into (gaps where metal stacks against each other

    And just paint where you can paint

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    My suggestion for removing the towbar, from experience with the same one:

    Remove the four rear bolts first, to relieve tension on the two bolts on the side arms underneath.

    To re-attach, follow the reverse sequence. If you bolt up the back bolts first, you won't get the side arm bolts in. Once those side arm bolts are in and mostly tight, then bring up the rear bolts.

    Quote Originally Posted by martnH View Post
    Removes all the visible bolts and towbar will come out.

    But I will suggest you to penetrol where you can paint into (gaps where metal stacks against each other

    And just paint where you can paint

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    Quote Originally Posted by defenda90 View Post
    Common on ALL 2007 onwards Defenders, obviously Jaguar Land Rover decided to screw another supplier down on price so they then cheeped out on chassis coating.
    As an almost normal service item I do on that "newer" Defender is to angle grinder with wire brush attachment over that rear cross member and re-coat with some nice epoxy black.
    Another one I do is remove the cross member underneath the gearbox (when doing the adapter shaft at that 70K onwards) and apply the same re-coat finish with some added lanolin spray for good measure.
    Regards
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