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    TDI oil leak at bottom of Intercooler

    Hi,
    My TDI has the oil weep from around the bottom of the Intercooler. Am told it is from an oil mist / vapour entering the air intake after the air cleaner. Result of the black breather on the valve cover not working effectively.
    Considering fitting an a oil catch can or alternatively the oil breather from Allisport shown in the link below.
    Appreciate any comments and or advice to stop the oil leak.
    thanks
    James
    https://www.allisport.com/wp-content...16/08/AS06.png

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    Tighten the hose clamp on the bottom, bugger to get at.

    Intercooler can only be leaking blow-by oil if it has a hole in it which I doubt as I would expect you would hear it.

    Alternatively take the intercooler out and flush it, I just use petrol.
    Make sure it is dry inside when you refit it.

    Yeah, a catch can is good but no big deal if you don't have one...

    Paul.

    edit; the pic in the link looks like their version of a catch can...
    Paul.

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    Sorry to hijack but

    When you say you can hear it
    What noise should I be expecting.

    The reason I ask is that all of a sudden my 300tdi has started sending out black smoke and overheating on long runs towing the trailer after years of being fine.

    I have changed the turbo hoses and still the same so wondering if it is an intercooler leak

    Cheers
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    IC out, flush, clean up hoses at connections, back on with new good quality hose clamps, nice and tight.

    To reduce blowby, clean out the breather and consider any restrictions in your intake. Cleaning the mesh breather becomes a hassle, the allisport version is fit and forget.

    I had my breather piped in between snorkel and air filter. Every service I found a pool of oil in the air filter housing . I have since replaced the snorkel with a 3" intake and the mesh breather with the allisport baffle breather. I have a quick disconnect on the breather pipe so I can stick a finger in to check for 'oilyness'. After a number of hard runs on the new set up my finger is coming out near enough dry. Will see what I find on next service, but its looking much better.

    The allisport breather is expensive for what it is. A provent install takes a bit more work but should do a better job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reads90 View Post
    Sorry to hijack but

    When you say you can hear it
    What noise should I be expecting.

    The reason I ask is that all of a sudden my 300tdi has started sending out black smoke and overheating on long runs towing the trailer after years of being fine.

    I have changed the turbo hoses and still the same so wondering if it is an intercooler leak

    Cheers
    Most likely a whoosh/whistle. A dusted up air filter had my egt/temps up, power down and black smoke out the pipe. It was so stuffed the intake hose was collapsing under suction. Changed the air filter recently, sucked up a mouse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reads90 View Post
    ....

    The reason I ask is that all of a sudden my 300tdi has started sending out black smoke and overheating on long runs towing the trailer after years of being fine.

    ....
    First things I'd check:
    1/. hose out the radiator fins and general area with a GARDEN HOSE! .. not a high pressure device. high pressure hose out will damage radiator fins.
    2./ coolant flush. dump coolant, flush radiator. I just used the garden hose and watched if any muck came out. a little came out at first, then just clear water after a few mins.
    The hard part is to remove all traces of old coolant, which if present just makes it hard to determine if the water is clear(ie. no rusty build up).
    3/. run straight water for a short while. I ran mine for a few months to see if any new rusty colouration would return. none, so I thought I was good to add coolant again(I was wrong, as I still had heating up issues)


    2a/. Going by some comments made here about CEM products, I gave their coolant flush/treatment product a try. Added the amount they specify to my coolant(ie. not straight water), due to my heating up issue.
    With my first coolant flush, I thought I cleared the majority of it, but the CEM stuff produced more brown murk!. The green coolant made it hard to see exactly how much, so I did it all over again.
    Straight water(ie. no added coolant) for a short while but this time with the CEM coolant flush. More brown murk(again!). Rad is obviously rusted up with more gummy crap than I thought it had the first time around.
    So now this is my 4th coolant flush, and it's still producing brown murky crap. I ran it this way for about a month this time in summer, then again for a month with straight water(no coolant no CEM flush). 5th time now, straight water added CEM again and this time it stayed clear, a light green clear .. no browning at all. At this point I felt less unsure that there was no more rusty crap in the engine or radiator. Now I run straight coolant again.

    Note that someone may chime in and warn against running straight water(ie with no coolant). it'll explode your engine or some such other stuff. My experience over the years is that straight water for a short time is of no consequence. I don't recommend running straight water all the time.
    I do it only to determine if the cooling system is clearing up. hard to do if there is a colour tint to the water. each to their own.

    Anyhow. whereas before I did all this, I used to regularly see up to 117°C on my (added) coolant gauge. The Discovery temp gauge is useless. even at 117°C it barely moved a mm or two from it's normal position.
    I also changed the Waxtstat thermostat to a Tridon thermostat. A much better thermostat in my view as it opens up much more(more flow). Both supposedly 88°C stats.
    Only problem now with the Tridon stat is that it takes a lot longer to build up heat in the engine(in winter). I run without the engine fan to compensate. Have yet to see over 90°C in the past two months without the fan.

    Note that EGT and coolant(or engine) temp are linked. High EGT will give you higher coolant temps.
    If yours is puffing black smoke, it must be running rich, and most likely under boost. It's very easy to adjust at a minimum the boost compensator. You need an EGT gauge to determine where your max boost fuelling should be.
    Again very easy to do all this. I know zero about 300 Tdi's and I've still successfully done all these mods and tweaks to my(D1) Tdi. Where I knew nothing at all about this stuff, know I know a little. Do lots of reading .. don't be scared if you don't know anything about it.
    The only tweak I've yet to do is to adjust the main fuel screw. At first because I had trouble breaking off the anti tamper doodad, and then because I've concentrated more so on fully understanding the boost compensation adjustments.

    Do you have aircon on your defender? For me all those excessive temp issues in my D1 were always with A/C on. With A/C off, never an issue(I think max coolant temp was in the very low 90's).
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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