I think I just saw the new defender

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Originally Posted by goingbush

And there you have it .

I say they are rarely used for what they were designed for . Mine was designed to be pushed out of the back of a C130 or slung under a helicopter but Ive never done that with it .

80% of owners of NEW 4x4's never take them off bitumen , and most of those only ever do commutes / trips to shops / school / soccer etc .

Just driving an Electric 4x4 around for the last 6 months has convinced me I'll never buy another ICE car again.

And in a 4x4 , Electric is a perfect match, Can run on any angle - even upside down , can run underwater , can run in bushfire smoke - (don't need oxygen to breathe ). so many advantages but from a pure 4x4 viewpoint 100% torque from zero RPM is the big winner . Not even touching on efficiency or emissions , zero maintenance aspect of it.

Sure Range Anxiety is real but no more so than in your in a petrol car running low on petrol .

For those that mostly do long distance remote touring in your 4x4 , sure EV are not there yet. but wont be long. Hybrid are not the answer but think "turbine range extender " .

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All that is needed is for Oz to copy the UK and have a law requiring servos to offer charging points and that will overcome much of the problem. It isn't essential to have 15amp chargers either - it just takes longer. Fast chargers and cheaper lithium batteries are on their way.

New 2020 Land Rover Defender - pictures | 1 | Auto Express

It’s a D4 <> RRS <> G Wagen hybrid! Some will be pleased. Others I expect not.

Looks like load space will be limited and it appears to be very passenger car oriented, at least in that guise.

Independent all round

Should be interesting to see the final shape with all that plastic and Camo off it

I'm happy with my 110!

Well if thats the Defender I'm out .

Bye Bye JLR .

I'll wait for the Electric Jeep DC Ute or Bollinger , whatever hits the Aust market first.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

Well if thats the Defender I'm out .

Bye Bye JLR .

I'll wait for the Electric Jeep DC Ute or Bollinger , whatever hits the Aust market first.

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I think it’s a little early to make a call......

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Originally Posted by weeds

I think it’s a little early to make a call......

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Agreed.

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I think it’s a little early to make a call......

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Regardless of front / rear the body contour shape on the sides is hideous . It looks like Discovery. I was hoping for flat sides. The Cafe shop lines do nothing for me.

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Originally Posted by weeds

I think it’s a little early to make a call......

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Agreed. Let’s see what the ‘ute’ version looks like first. 130?

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Originally Posted by goingbush

Regardless of front / rear the body contour shape on the sides is hideous . It looks like Discovery. I was hoping for flat sides. The Cafe shop lines do nothing for me.

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They look flat, kind of, but at an angle ???