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    2.2 Puma engine noise and temperature

    Ive got a `whirring` noise in the front end of puma, it rises with engine revs and I am thinking alternator or belt tensioner, its been doing it for the past 5-10k, but Im so busy with the fire season that I haven't had a chance to track it down..another issue lately is that when the ambient temp is up above 35, on long steep pulls in top gear, the temp gauge moves up slightly, followed by a surging motion in the vehicle and slight loss of power and weirdly, the aircon looses its cool.. change down a gear and ease up on the throttle and all is normal. The gauge has never moved before, and doesn't get into the red..What are the chances that the viscous fan has crapped itself and is the cause of the noise, overheating and aircon?? Any ideas?

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    That's normal overheat protection, AC off and fuel reduced at 118 degrees Cyl head temp....I would think that the viscous fan should be the first port of call to check, yes.
    Whirring noises I had in one recently was the main fan support bearing, comes as the whole front bracket etc and is a pain to fit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    That's normal overheat protection, AC off and fuel reduced at 118 degrees Cyl head temp....I would think that the viscous fan should be the first port of call to check, yes.
    Whirring noises I had in one recently was the main fan support bearing, comes as the whole front bracket etc and is a pain to fit...
    Thanks Justin,
    It seems to make sense that its all related, interesting about the overheat protection, Ill check it out tomorrow and see if anything is obvious,
    Can you purchase the viscous unit as a seperate item, or is it a complete fan unit?

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    Its actually the same as the td5 fan assembly, just get a OEM or genuine one!! They certainly need a good fan. If you get to plug in a nanocom etc you can see the CHTemp rise to 118 and it goes straight into fuel cut.. only then does the gauge move... in my opinion a stupid a dangerous design. If you were being followed by a B Double and this happens then you'd best get the heck off the road...
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    Fan part number PGG500340
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    +1 Thanks JC, good to know that 118 is the cut-out point.

    ...Summitt I don't rely on the Defender engine temp gauge. I have an Ultraguage plugged into the OBD port - with an Engine Temp alarm set at 100deg. Occasionally on a long hot uphill it will hit 100 - 103 degrees. I back off when the alarm goes off. Consequently, never been higher than 103deg

    Also backing off in advance, down to 5th at 100km/hr will keep the temp down on a long hill.

    Question is, how accurate is an Ultragauge 'Engine Temp' reading compared to a Nanocom 'CHTemp' reading? Does Engine Temp equate to Cylinder Head Temp as an OBD reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    +1 Thanks JC, good to know that 118 is the cut-out point.

    ...Summitt I don't rely on the Defender engine temp gauge. I have an Ultraguage plugged into the OBD port - with an Engine Temp alarm set at 100deg. Occasionally on a long hot uphill it will hit 100 - 103 degrees. I back off when the alarm goes off. Consequently, never been higher than 103deg

    Also backing off in advance, down to 5th at 100km/hr will keep the temp down on a long hill.

    Question is, how accurate is an Ultragauge 'Engine Temp' reading compared to a Nanocom 'CHTemp' reading? Does Engine Temp equate to Cylinder Head Temp as an OBD reading?
    The same readout should be observed, if it takes its signal from the obd2 port?
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    Maybe try switching the aircon on/off. The compressor on mine whirrs a bit.

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    I have had the same symptoms with the aircon cutting out although the first time I had observed the surging was coming up the long hills on the Hume between Goulburn and Yass the other day. I had pretty much put it down to the heat and a headwind. Have had the aircon cut out and the temp gauge move upward on a long pull with the trailer on the back on a hot day. Changing down allowed it to cool and proceed normally.

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    same drama

    I literally just logged on the ask this same question. I have had it at 110kmh in ~30deg in my 90 very lightly loaded

    Guessing I have a cooling system issue i need to resolve. Will start with the visc fan as suggested.

    Thanks all.

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