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Thread: Snapped front Swivel Ball on a '11 Defender 130 PUMA - Is Tyre size the cause?

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    There are plenty of defers running -25 offset which is 58mm change from OEM and wide tyres (this combination is probably wider than leighs setup) but you don’t see many failures like this one. This is the first I’ve seen online.

    Either way, these guys are giving us plenty in inspiration for our planned departure late 2021

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    But probably not many overloading to the same extent. One of the issues I have observed looking at expedition vehicles since my first real life encounter (Leyland Bros 1966) is that most of the issues they have arise largely from overloading.
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    Be interesting to see what they weigh in at, I kinda recall in one episode mentioning they pretty much run at GVM

    Either way they are back on the road with a new combination

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    Hmm, I think I know what JC will say when he sees this....

    It goes with the t/case, front diff, rear diff of the last of the Tdci's.....

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    He reckons he is well under GVM...
    Cheers

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    That old fella did an awesome job... I remember watching him make a suitable pair of 2nd Rear Shocks for their PUMA... The old guy's got some good old fashion skills

    Personally I don't reckon weight had anything to do with it - more so leverage I reckon would be a factor, but I kinda remember seeing in one of his recent videos that he was carrying those wheel spacers in the rear drawer under the slide-on...


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    RobMaca you beat me to it. I watched this this morning. Pretty horrific stuff. Never seen anything like it and it could well have ended in tragedy. Stills from the couple's video.

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    Bit hard to tell from the picture, but I strongly suspect a fatigue failure with a crack starting from a stress raiser, probably a bad stone chip,but possibly a manufacturing defect.
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    Not a chance in hell I would trust a welded swivel neck
    Even if it was Electronic wire fed Robotic TIG welded or sheet even friction stir welded....

    It is a cast component with finish machining. Just laying a bead creates a HAZ out of this solar system for such a high load item

    I would strip a swivel off a 1960s series and make it work in preference to welding that **** up

    Obviously best option would be to just find a wrecked D1 and scalp it!!!!




    Maybe maybe maybe if do it to drive a few km on good bitumen to a wrecked D1


    Crazy if they run with that welded ball

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    Look at the big module on the back of it, you can't tell me weight isn't a factor.

    Big tyres got nothing to do with it. Spacers might affect it, but if it just snapped driving down the highway tells me that some persistent factor has work the steel.

    Most likely the weight.

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    Sure weight would stress it. But it should not snap. Casting looks pretty porous but who knows. The fact they recalled them for thr swivel joints is the major. Between this and other issues looks like LR lost the plot with the later run of Defenders. It is like the.care factor was lost...

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