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    Puma Engine Replacement Options Cummins R2.8

    I’m still scoping the options for when it comes time for an engine rebuild on my 2.2 with BAS 170 tune.
    I’ve 172,000 on my vehicle and just thinking of the future.

    Options: LS3 with standard manual box
    LS3 with full 6 speed auto
    Ford 3.2 Diesel
    And now, the Cummins R2.8 Crate engine.

    I contacted Cummins and am pleasantly surprised at the cost of a new 2.8 crate engine delivered to Tassie.
    $15,000 plus GST, of which I’m exempt.

    That price is a way better option than second hand LS3/3.2 engines, and it’s very a complete offering.
    The factory stock specs are very good. 160HP, 420nm.

    I wonder if anyone else has done this install in Oz. Obviously, interface to the gear box, an auto box, engine mounts, comms to the gauges, air con install etc are items that need to be factored in.

    Comments?

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    There's a guy in the USA that installed one of those crate engines into his Disco-1. Might give u some ideas...?


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    I have a couple of questions.
    What are you trying to achieve with an engine swap? Because an LS and a Cummins R2.8 are very different outcomes.
    Are you planning on doing it yourself or pay a mechanic/engineering workshop to do the work?
    If you want to do it for ****s and giggles, I would be the last person to stop you.
    If it's to remedy issues that you have experienced or are expecting with the 2.2, what are they?

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    Yep, I’ve seen the video series.
    Theres some good info on these engines via You Tube.👍

    Quote Originally Posted by Robmacca View Post
    There's a guy in the USA that installed one of those crate engines into his Disco-1. Might give u some ideas...?


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    Yep, very aware of the differences between the Diesel options and LS3 swap outs. I’ve been looking into this for a few years.

    My Defender is getting towards 200,000 kms, and I need reliability in it, as I do go to very remote areas, where a breakdown is just not a situation I want to contemplate.

    Id like to get an engine that is just as capable and then some as my Puma, but is less stressed.

    The work will be done by a shop, hence my enquiring if anyone is doing this at the moment, vs my having to blindly reinvent the wheel.

    My 2.2 with BAS 170 tune has and is great, but a little underpowered for my heavily modified and heavy Defender. I really enjoy improving on the factory capabilities and modding my vehicle. Most of what has been done has been done by me, but an engine swap is way out of my league. I could remove an engine, but getting a new one running and set up correctly is for the professionals.

    My Defender is a keeper so I want the best engine and gear box option for my specific set up that I can get, for remote touring and not being afraid to tackle the high country tracks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Standard View Post
    I have a couple of questions.
    What are you trying to achieve with an engine swap? Because an LS and a Cummins R2.8 are very different outcomes.
    Are you planning on doing it yourself or pay a mechanic/engineering workshop to do the work?
    If you want to do it for ****s and giggles, I would be the last person to stop you.
    If it's to remedy issues that you have experienced or are expecting with the 2.2, what are they?

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    I have read ads from England for a company which fits the Ford 3.2 from Rangers to Defenders, is that what you're looking for?

    Ford Puma 3.2 i5 TDCi Engine Management Kit | scs-delta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baytown View Post
    Yep, very aware of the differences between the Diesel options and LS3 swap outs. I’ve been looking into this for a few years.

    My Defender is getting towards 200,000 kms, and I need reliability in it, as I do go to very remote areas, where a breakdown is just not a situation I want to contemplate.
    Not sure a LS3 would a suitable swap if u plan on heading into remote areas... The added fuel u would have to take would affect your vehicle's GVM I would imagine??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I have read ads from England for a company which fits the Ford 3.2 from Rangers to Defenders, is that what you're looking for?

    Ford Puma 3.2 i5 TDCi Engine Management Kit | scs-delta

    About Us | Motor & Diesel Engineering (Anglia) Limited
    I think there is a guy on here doing that conversion for the defender. Would be very nice to drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPROVER View Post
    I think there is a guy on here doing that conversion for the defender. Would be very nice to drive.
    Swapping in a Cummins is going to cost at least $20,000 if you are paying professionals to do the job. Your car is not worth that much.

    Why not just trade it in on something with a lot more grunt ex factory. Something with a decent size engine to start with. Probably means you will not be driving a Land Rover as the poms have always been reluctant to put a decent size engine in just about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    Swapping in a Cummins is going to cost at least $20,000 if you are paying professionals to do the job. Your car is not worth that much.

    Why not just trade it in on something with a lot more grunt ex factory. Something with a decent size engine to start with. Probably means you will not be driving a Land Rover as the poms have always been reluctant to put a decent size engine in just about anything.
    Yep I understand that... but the guy here is doing the 3.2 litre conversion. That would be a better engine.

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