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    Have you tried a different ECU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discopete View Post
    Have you tried a different ECU?
    No I haven't. It drove okay before HG was done so I didn't think it would be ECU related

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanmac36 View Post
    No I haven't. It drove okay before HG was done so I didn't think it would be ECU related
    Probably not. It's just a possibility I'd eliminate from the equation if it were me.

    Cheers, Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by discopete View Post
    Probably not. It's just a possibility I'd eliminate from the equation if it were me.

    Cheers, Peter
    You may be on to something here.
    I got a nanocom yesterday and connected it to see if any sensors were dud and the ambient pressure was showing 90kPa. The transfer case High/Low switch was also showing that it was in LOW range when its definitely in high. I know the throttle response normally changes when in low range so it may be that the power isn't as bad as I think. Just that the throttle response is in low range.

    Another spanner in the works is this morning I have no crank at all and the ECU is saying its immobilised. Yesterday it running fine while I was looking through the nanocom readings and now ECU immobilised and no crank...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanmac36 View Post
    You may be on to something here.
    I got a nanocom yesterday and connected it to see if any sensors were dud and the ambient pressure was showing 90kPa. The transfer case High/Low switch was also showing that it was in LOW range when its definitely in high. I know the throttle response normally changes when in low range so it may be that the power isn't as bad as I think. Just that the throttle response is in low range.

    Another spanner in the works is this morning I have no crank at all and the ECU is saying its immobilised. Yesterday it running fine while I was looking through the nanocom readings and now ECU immobilised and no crank...
    Ambient pressure as in map sensor? Yeah that's a bit low unless you are at about 1000m above MSL,

    The transfer case switch thing is PROBABLY showing incorrectly, it has been for some years with the Nanocom...and it's hard to explain why, I think it's more of a diagnostic term than an indication of the range selected.
    I'm not sure it's been rectified in the latest firmware.

    Best way to check would be with Nanocom hooked up and going between high and low range and see if it changes, if it does I'd say it's all working ok.

    As to the immobilizer...Dunno much about them, AS10 is known to be problematic, try locking and unlocking again see what happens.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    Ambient pressure as in map sensor? Yeah that's a bit low unless you are at about 1000m above MSL,

    The transfer case switch thing is PROBABLY showing incorrectly, it has been for some years with the Nanocom...and it's hard to explain why, I think it's more of a diagnostic term than an indication of the range selected.
    I'm not sure it's been rectified in the latest firmware.

    Best way to check would be with Nanocom hooked up and going between high and low range and see if it changes, if it does I'd say it's all working ok.

    As to the immobilizer...Dunno much about them, AS10 is known to be problematic, try locking and unlocking again see what happens.

    Cheers
    James
    Nanocom shows ambient pressure reading and manifold pressure as separate. The manifold pressure with ignition on but not running shows 102kpa which is correct for roughly 20m altitude.

    I tried switching back and forth between high and low but there was no change to the nanocom reading saying it's in low range.

    Problem with locking and unlocking is that I don't know if I have the original key and there is no FOB.
    There was no central locking installed either so I'm not sure if the key would have even had a fob to mobilize the ECU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanmac36 View Post
    Nanocom shows ambient pressure reading and manifold pressure as separate. The manifold pressure with ignition on but not running shows 102kpa which is correct for roughly 20m altitude.

    I tried switching back and forth between high and low but there was no change to the nanocom reading saying it's in low range.

    Problem with locking and unlocking is that I don't know if I have the original key and there is no FOB.
    There was no central locking installed either so I'm not sure if the key would have even had a fob to mobilize the ECU.
    Gotcha, you mean the sensor in the airbox, that should read roughly the same as the map sensor when the engine is off, if it doesn't you might have an issue.

    On the key thing, I apologize,I was thinking more on the lines of the d2 which has a different setup.
    You could unhook the battery and try again, but those AS10 ecu's have a bad rep for leaving people stranded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    Gotcha, you mean the sensor in the airbox, that should read roughly the same as the map sensor when the engine is off, if it doesn't you might have an issue.

    On the key thing, I apologize,I was thinking more on the lines of the d2 which has a different setup.
    You could unhook the battery and try again, but those AS10 ecu's have a bad rep for leaving people stranded.
    I did try disconnecting the battery to no avail. I find it strange that it was running fine up until I connected the nanocom. The nanocom did have some issues connecting and communicating with the ECU at times.
    Once the ECU is immobilised, does it have to be re-mobilised to then accept a security code from the 10AS?

    Thanks for the help.

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    The ECU seems to be behaving a little strangely as shown by the Nanocom readings.

    In view of your engine work, I would be carefully checking ALL earth connections - those to the engine and the ECU in particular.

    Cheers,

    Lionel

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    Thanks everyone for the assistance!

    After much research and talking to a few LR specialists I've figured out that the engine in my TD5 is not the original engine. From my VIN I should have a 10P EU2 TD5 but it is in-fact a 16P EU3 TD5.

    Everything has been changed to the 16P/EU3 spec (TPS, AAP, head, injectors etc) EXCEPT the ECU! The ECU is still the earlier MSB type which "works" with the later engine but is not ideal.

    The maps are still the EU2 maps and the ECU will not remember the last injector code so the engine is definitely not running as good as it should.

    If anyone can point me in the direction of a NNN ECU for manual (500020 or 500250) that will hopefully sort out my issues!

    Thanks again.

    Nathan

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