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    Why are so many Puma Land Rovers currently for Sale?

    Hi folks

    Some may recall that my long-term HiCap110 LandRover was written off about three months ago. I immediately bought a slightly younger (and much lower Kms) 130 as a replacement. However I am still in dispute with Shannons our insurer rergarding payout on the original vehicle.

    Shannons have valued a 2012 Defender with 130,000Km at $20,000!

    Reputable vehicle valuers such as RedBook value my old vehicle at $50,000. So I have no idea where where Shannons is getting a $20,000 valuation from.

    So to dispute this stupidity I've been going through carsales web pages and pulling together the sales prices of all 20211-2013 Defenders currently on the market in Australia. And im shocked to find there's suddenly many on the market.

    In the 2011-2013 model range alone there's nearly 40! Why is everybody selling? Is there an expectation that Defender prices have got stupidly high and will soon crash, or is everybody looking to buy an Inneos? Any thoughts on this?

    Obviously, so many people selling will soon drive down the price. I better argue my case with Shannons quick!!

    Incidentally. Shannons are total bastards if you ever have to claim from them. This is my first claim ever, and first in ten years holding a Shannons Policy. They know nothing about automotives and especially the value of niche vehicles like our Land Rovers. Forget the fancy advertising.

    I strongly recommend against insuring with them.

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    I had a look a while back and in Qld,there were not many 110 wagons for sale,that sort of vintage.Maybe 4 or 5.

    There were a huge number of 90's for sale.

    Probably many think they have made some $ and want to move on or have realised this thing isnt for us.

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    There will be a small percentage of people simply trying to profit from the inflated prices of Defenders but I think the real reasons for an increase in the number of vehicles for sale are one of (or a combination of) the following;


    • Job losses or reduced work hours
    • General inflation
    • Interest rates rising


    When people are under financial pressure the nice to haves are the first to go. This is an indicator of what's to come with regards to housing prices as more and more people struggle financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NT5224 View Post
    ..............Shannons have valued a 2012 Defender with 130,000Km at $20,000!................
    That's very interesting as my 2012 90 (150k kms) is insured with Shannons with an agreed value of $61k. I simply said that is how much it would cost to replace if it was written off & they only had to look at carsales to see that & they agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry View Post
    That's very interesting as my 2012 90 (150k kms) is insured with Shannons with an agreed value of $61k. I simply said that is how much it would cost to replace if it was written off & they only had to look at carsales to see that & they agreed.
    Larry, my agreed value was $50000. That was seven years ago when first insured with Shannons. However Shannon’s are arguing that 2012 LandRover Defenders have since depreciated in value to $20000. They have sent me a letter stating this.

    They obviously haven’t tried to buy a Defender recently.

    Alan

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    If you have an agreed value that is what they have to pay - no argument.

    You said that the agreed value was $50,000 7 years ago and that is totally irrelevant to 2021/22. So what is the value on your current policy at the time of the accident - that is what they will pay you. If now market value then good luck, likewise if you have just been renewing without agree the value and the current agreed value in the current policy is $20,000 then that is what they will pay as both you and Shannons have agreed that is its value.

    You cannot sign up to an agreed value of say $20,000 when you last renewed your policy and now expect them to pay $50,000 - however if the agreed value was $50,000 on your last renewal then that is what they need to pay.

    However from your discussion in your last post it would appear you have it insured for market value in which case you really are in the hands of the insurance company - in my mind never insure for market value - always Agreed Value.

    So tell us what the last policy said.

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    Why are so many Puma Land Rovers currently for Sale?

    Our 90 is insured with Shannon’s.

    $80k Why are so many Puma Land Rovers currently  for Sale?

    Already had an offer above that.

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    what is a Puma land rover?

    one with a puma engine?....a ford?

    it seems people call a defender a puma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NT5224 View Post
    Shannons have valued a 2012 Defender with 130,000Km at $20,000!

    Reputable vehicle valuers such as RedBook value my old vehicle at $50,000. So I have no idea where where Shannons is getting a $20,000 valuation from.
    My 2010 started out at $20k too with Shannons... It's just a starting point. I said I preferred $55K and they said no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    what is a Puma land rover?

    one with a puma engine?....a ford?

    it seems people call a defender a puma.
    Yes the last of the Defenders come with a Ford Puma motor

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