As JDNSW suggested, its only useful if it pre-loads to take the stress off the weld.
Seems that in Europe this may have been deemed not to be an adequate fix !
Colin
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As JDNSW suggested, its only useful if it pre-loads to take the stress off the weld.
Seems that in Europe this may have been deemed not to be an adequate fix !
Colin
I again contacted Vehiclerecalls & asked how is it that they have the details of what the problem is & a list of potentially affected vehicles without JLR having an 'active' campaign?Quote:
Originally Posted by gromit
Their reply was: "Because the supplier must notify the Department within 2 days of taking voluntary recall action if the vehicle or component was supplied in Australia."
The notice from Vehiclerecalls is dated 22nd August 2022, so in the 12 weeks since, JLR hasn't even contacted owners, let alone inspected or done any type of rectification. Mustn't consider it a serious problem.[bighmmm]
That doesn't give you any faith in the recall system in Australia !Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry
Does the fact that vehicles are getting the bracket fitted in the UK but it's not actively being carried out in Australia concern the Department ?
I hope you and others concerned get some resolution, ideally a replacement axle with correct welds but I can't see JLR doing that due to the cost.
Just found this on the Defender2 site, it's from an Australian
Thanks pieschipsandpees, I've tried Landrover Australia and got a standard reply because of the technical nature of the query I need to take my car to an authorised mechanic. I've replied my vehicle is with an authorised mechanic and the instruction is not to drive the vehicle. I've questioned if the P048 bracket is a satisfactory solution why is my vehicle now rendered unsafe to drive? No response for several days.
Anyhow, I contacted the regulatory body responsible for safety recalls in Australia and the response has been timely and positive. Fingers crossed I can get the car back on the road asap and all associated vehicles get an adequate solution. Realistically the only safe solution is to replace all the Axel casins in the production period.
Another one from Australia
The axel casing on my 2011 defender has cracked through the sub-standard weld. It started with a weep some time ago. A few weeks back I noticed the front left wheel was leaning in. I had a quick look and couldn't see anything obvious. Then I noticed the steering wheel was off centre so on further inspection I saw the Axel flange was resting on the "SAFETY BRACKET" and the weld had opened up. The car was still driving relatively well. Had I not noticed the wheel leaning I'd still be driving it.
At the moment in Australia the recent recall only covers selected vehicles and mine isn't included. My local garage(who has always been very good) contacted landrover and landrover have offered to cover/discount about 1/3rd of the repair. I'm not satisfied with that. I have contacted landrover in Australia and will see what progresses. It's very disappointing the way this is being handled.
Something funny going on.....
Colin
That sums it up really.[bigsad]Quote:
Originally Posted by gromit
Vehicle recalls in Australia in the most part are voluntary.
its all under the Dept. of infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Communications and the Arts ...
**** me it looks like all the left over **** in one **** sandwich, hell I'm sure there is room for a few more things.
This whole thread really if it wasnt potentially dangerous is laughable to believe a **** corporation like Jaguar Land Rover or any Gov. Dept. is going to do anything more than the absolute minimum.
Just keep doing what you are doing, post it on social media, tell everyone you know and the most important thing is to not buy another **** Land Rover product and make sure your relatives and everyone you know doesnt buy a **** Land Rover product. The newer models havent got any better with build quality, its still ****.
the end point is, more fool you if you buy a Land Rover.
and just to add to that, more fool you if you end up buying a new Toyota because they seem to be on that down hill slide towards Land Rover **** build quality.
Update. I finally got a reply from the Minister for Transport who informs me that someone else is responsible for safety issues and included links. So I checked these links. The only issue being pursued by Land Rover are the following.
Jaguar Land Rover Ireland Limited recalls certain Land Rover Defender, Discovery, Discovery Sport, Range Rover Sport and Range Rover Velar vehicles
31 August 2022
Jaguar Land Rover Ireland Limited is carrying out a voluntary recall of certain Land Rover Defender, Discovery, Discovery Sport, Range Rover Sport and Range Rover Velar vehicles.
The issue has been identified whereby a manufacturing defect identified on certain front seat belt pretensioners that had caused damage to the pretensioner tubes during assembly. This could result in a reduced level or complete loss of pretensioning in the event of an accident and increase the risk of occupant injury.
There are 79 vehicles affected in the Republic of Ireland that were produced between 5 January 2022 to 24 May 2022.
and
aguar Land Rover Ireland Limited recalls certain Land Rover Discovery passenger vehicles
24 March, 2022
Jaguar Land Rover Ireland Limited is carrying out a voluntary recall of certain Land Rover Discovery passenger vehicles.
The issue has been identified whereby on affected vehicles, due to a manufacturing issue, the fuel feed hose assembly may have been incorrectly routed and as a result could split. This may lead to a fuel leak into the engine bay. A fuel leak in the engine bay compartment may result in an engine bay fire. A vehicle fire could increase the risk of injury or death to vehicle occupants, other road users or bystanders.
There are 72 vehicles affected in the Republic of Ireland that were produced between 2018 - 2019.
Which means that they still do not regard the axle issue as a safety concern.
Automotive Market Surveillance Authority (AMSA)
I have contacted the RSA about the alert for the axle.
Our 90 is on the list (August 2012) but have heard nothing from JLR since they request confirmation of our ownership as they still had the original purchasers details when I registered per the recall instructions. That was back on 30/08, radio silence since then.
I have been in contact with another party affected by this and Land Rover are digging in. By the time we are finished with this up hill battle we will be able to climb Everest!
Update 2/12/2022
I have been in contact with a number of bodies over here who deal with safety issues etc. I got a reply from one of them today who contacted Land Rover Ireland on my behalf. Land Rover Ireland have stated that my vehicle is not effected by the recall despite the fact that it was recalled to have the safety brackets fitted!
I just checked the calender to make sure this is not April 1st. To be continued....
This appeared on Defender2 today
"Well at last I have a reply from my local main dealer....
It's not good, in fact it's the last straw for me.
Apparently, the brackets cannot be fitted due to the fact that the vehicle has a replacement, non-standard chassis. Also it has been Poly-bushed. Neither Land Rover or the dealership have any further responsibility in regard to the N706 recall.
Thus they decline to do any work on the vehicle.
Where this leaves me is in an impossible position: The recall still shows outstanding at JLR & DVSA.
In the event of an accident the insurers would use this as a complete get-out. I cannot remove the recall from either of the databases, even if there is a work-around.
The only reason the 110 has a newly fitted Marsland chassis is because the original LR 'kit-Kat wrapper' chassis rotted through at 30,000 miles.
So, here I am , an OAP living totally 'out-in-the sticks', totally reliant on this vehicle (& trailer), as this is the only way that anything larger than a weekly shopping load can be got here!
All sensible & reasonably priced solutions welcome. For now the vehicle is grounded.
Surely I cannot be the only person on this forum with an N706 recall and a vehicle with a replacement chassis?"
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