The front Puma axle saga continues.

**cuppabillytea** · 13th February 2024, 09:42 AM

Does any one know which vehicles are affected. This is the first I've heard about this recall. Mine's an October 2013 build.

**cuppabillytea** · 13th February 2024, 10:25 AM

Just looked it up. 2010 to 2012. I'm not affected,,,well not by that anyway.

**gromit** · 13th February 2024, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Just looked it up. 2010 to 2012. I'm not affected,,,well not by that anyway.

I wouldn't be relying on 'build dates'.
Have a look at your front axle, it should be very easy to determine if yours is correctly friction welded. I posted a video link in post #9 if you watch this you'll understand the process if you haven't seen it before.

There should be two ridges of metal where material has been forced out just behind the flange on each end of the axle housing. I've attached a photo of a Series I axle.

Colin

**cuppabillytea** · 13th February 2024, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by gromit

I wouldn't be relying on 'build dates'.
Have a look at your front axle, it should be very easy to determine if yours is correctly friction welded. I posted a video link in post #9 if you watch this you'll understand the process if you haven't seen it before.

There should be two ridges of metal where material has been forced out just behind the flange on each end of the axle housing. I've attached a photo of a Series I axle.

Colin

Thanks Colin I'll have a look.

**DazzaTD5** · 14th February 2024, 01:27 PM

Here are two pics...

The one with the single weld highlighted with the paint mark is a MIG weld. (which are the problematic ones)
The other pic with the two welds highlighted with the two paint marks is friction welded, which is how they have done them since the dawn of time.

**cuppabillytea** · 15th February 2024, 09:52 AM

It would seem that friction welding ceased to be a thing at LR.

**JDNSW** · 15th February 2024, 10:43 AM

Rather, the supply of axle housings was outsourced, if I remember correctly, to India.

Perhaps worth pointing out, that there is no inherent reason why one production method should be stronger/more durable than the other - it is a matter of production QC.

**spudfan** · 15th February 2024, 08:24 PM

My 2011 2.4 had the magic brackets fitted during the three year warranty period, I cannot recall exactly when. This makes me wonder, if mine was done that long ago, why are some only being recalled now?

**DazzaTD5** · 16th February 2024, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by spudfan

This makes me wonder, if mine was done that long ago, why are some only being recalled now?

Because like any scumbag Company they only do the absolute minimum to meet any any obligation with regards to liability or gov requirements.

**DazzaTD5** · 16th February 2024, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Rather, the supply of axle housings was outsourced, if I remember correctly, to India.

Perhaps worth pointing out, that there is no inherent reason why one production method should be stronger/more durable than the other - it is a matter of production QC.

I absolutely agree with you John, but lets not fall into the, oh it was outsourced so it's not Land Rovers fault.

Jaguar Land Rover did the outsourcing no doubt to cut costs. Jaguar Land Rover QC always has been and still is verging on averagely poor to terrible.

I would say the only exception to this was 1948 and the years that followed during the production of the Series 1 Land Rover. When there was a purpose and a goal to build a great vehicle.

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