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    2.4 t’s I remap - intercooler upgrade??

    Have recently replaced the engine with a new crate 2.4 tdci after 150K (not an unusual story apparently) and with 1500 Kms on the clock, am just about to opt for a BAS 150 remap.
    My puma is a farm ute and carries a bit of weight from time to time. Town is a 40 min run down the highway, so the remap will be a most welcome improvement.
    Q: Is an intercooler upgrade really necessary for the 150 remap move. I would think it was essential on the 170, but possibly not so necessary for the 150.
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    I just did the BAS 150 upgrade, (on a 2.2 Puma) and after speaking with Peter (from BAS) I also upgraded to the BAS intercooler and BAS silicone hoses.

    Why ? I live in Brisbane, tow a one tonne boat (so not real heavy) during hot summer days up north, with long highway runs, I also take it on the beach (no trailer) and Peter suggested it wouldn't hurt to install the intercooler (just to be on the safe side). I also fitted an EGT gauge, and on some recent trips up north, towing the boat, saw 350c post turbo (so generally that would mean 550c pre turbo), so nothing too hot, but something to watch.

    None of it was cheap, but nothing with a Defender is, and I prefer to be a bit over engineered , and not running on the edge.

    Just my opinion, and what I have done and spent my money on. Very happy with the outcome, and hopefully, the reliability.

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    Did you blank off the EGR tube? How was it changing over the intercooler and fitting the EGT meter? Any pics of the installed gauge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustlust View Post
    Have recently replaced the engine with a new crate 2.4 tdci after 150K (not an unusual story apparently) and with 1500 Kms on the clock, am just about to opt for a BAS 150 remap.
    My puma is a farm ute and carries a bit of weight from time to time. Town is a 40 min run down the highway, so the remap will be a most welcome improvement.
    Q: Is an intercooler upgrade really necessary for the 150 remap move. I would think it was essential on the 170, but possibly not so necessary for the 150.
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    *The standard intercooler is likely to fail eventually anyway (the 2.4 is not as prone as a 2.2 for intercooler failures).
    *keep in mind tunes marketed as "150" etc etc are a bit of a bull**** term, I use a dyno when tuning, every engine will return completely different results, both before and after.
    *Manufacturers stated outputs are all bull****, even if you account for the fact manufacturers ratings are at the flywheel and not the road wheels.
    *while very convenient to be able to tune your vehicle from home. When it all goes pair shaped your support from a business outside of Australia may be average, ok to not much support at all.
    *I recently had a customer have this happen, basically minimal to no support and had to pay me the big dollars to rectify the issues.
    *yes the Ford 2.4 and 2.2 can fail but compared to other engines used in Land Rovers both past and present the failure rate is extremely low. Prolly on par with other high volume engines around the world, personally I put it in the better end of engines.
    *The biggest cause of failures is faulty injectors, if you hear the death rattle when cold, get the injectors changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustlust View Post
    Did you blank off the EGR tube? How was it changing over the intercooler and fitting the EGT meter? Any pics of the installed gauge?
    *just doing a intercooler on its own makes very little difference but it is a reliable replacement if your intercooler fails.
    *if tuning you dont need to blank off the manifold, but if I am doing a tune and turbo package I will blank off the manifold/egr.
    Regards
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    Thanks Dazza, shame you’re so far away.
    Mustlust

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    Brian said my wee puma 90 2.4 could do the 150 remap and upgrade the IC when funds allowed.
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    Glad to here that, the IC upgrade isn’t cheap when added to the remap and possible EGT gauge bill.
    Mustlust

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    1967 Mustang coupe 347 stroker
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    2009 110 utility 2.4tdci

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    My understanding is that the BAS tune electronically closes the EGR valve, maybe confirm with them ? that is what I was told.

    I had an indie install the IC and the redarc gauge (picture attached), he said the IC was a tight fit, but no rubbing or anything, he did a good job from what I can see.

    Yes, it is all expensive, but I figure do it properly, then I won't have a problem on the side of the road or on a beach somewhere, and have to pay more money to be towed out, with all the issues of ruining a holiday or week away, etc.

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    My local LR mechanic has a distinct aversion to silicone hoses. Would this be reasonable? I’m surprised as nearly all remap suppliers sell and recommend changing over the original hoses to silicon ones. I bought a set from LandyBitz last year and haven’t installed them based on my mechanic’s opinion of them.
    Mustlust

    1950 Series 1 80in lights behind grill
    1950 Series 1 80in rolling chassis looking for a body
    1956 Series 1 86in
    1956 Series 1 107
    1957 Series 1 88in
    1967 Mustang coupe 347 stroker
    2011 Discovery 4 3.0
    2009 110 utility 2.4tdci

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